Yeah, because those were discussions about Boston and New Hampshire.

You are not discussing Vermont here, you are discussing dogs and dog doors, which has literally nothing to do with Vermont.

Please follow Reddiquette. The appropriate community for discussions about dogs is r/dogs.

Please follow Reddiquette:

"Post to the most appropriate community possible."

Maybe people seem unhelpful, judgemental and mean because you don't follow Reddiquette?

There is no snow tire subreddit, or winter boot subreddit, so people talk about it as a general topic here because there is no more appropriate subreddit to do so, unlike a discussion about dogs, there is a subreddit for discussions about dogs, it is r/dogs**.** There is also a r/heatpump subreddit and a subreddit for wood stoves called r/woodstovin and those are the "most appropriate communities for those discussions". That's how Reddiquette works.

Please follow Reddiquette. The appropriate community for discussions about dogs is r/dogs.

This is a community for discussing Vermont, not dogs and dog related things.

Well I am sorry to hear that you don't seem to get along with the folks at r/dogs, but that is the appropriate place to have dog related discussions.

This is a subreddit for talking about Vermont, not a place for talking about dog doors. This is NOT the "most appropriate subreddit" for this conversation.

There is no such thing as a "Vermont dog door", it's just a cold weather dog door, which I am sure the folks at r/dogs know all about and would love to talk about there, because again, that is the appropriate subreddit for that conversation.

Just because you happen to live in Vermont while you are asking about an unrelated topic, does not make it a topic about Vermont.

Please follow Reddiquette:

"Post to the most appropriate community possible."

There is no reason you can't just ask the appropriate community r/dogs for a cold weather dog door my friend. You will get much more feedback when you post your question in the appropriate subreddit.

This post has nothing to do with Vermont IMO

I think the subreddit you are looking for is r/dogs

Yikes, are you ok? You are making a lot of inaccurate claims here, and you continue to try to minimize what is a significant problem which is pretty puzzling?

"Pet waste doesn’t register in their studies of our waterways because it is negligible compared other sources. That’s not to say there is no impact, but it’s impact is minute compared to other sources."

Again, in a 1982 study of Baltimore, Maryland catchments that dog feces were the single greatest contributor of fecal coliform and fecal strep bacteria (Lim and Oliveri, 1982)

Also, about 30 percent of all bacteria in samples taken from urban watersheds can be traced back to dog waste, which is a very large percentage.

If you had bothered to read the article that I linked to in my comment, you could have found all the sources to back up the statements that I quoted from that article which clearly show that you are wrong.

Pet waste is in fact one of the chief sources of storm water runoff pollution, you are apparently just assuming something else to be true without any evidence to back it up.

Seems to me like you are here just to have an argument, I don't think you even bothered to read my reply, so good luck with that. Bye bye

I appreciate your dedication to the topic of dog waste sanitation, but your attempt at minimizing the impact of pet waste on our environment is not helping to fix the problem.

EDIT:Highlighted for clarity

Yes, agricultural animal waste is a serious issue in places where farming dominates the landscape, but the city of Boston is not one of those places now is it?

I am not sure why you are attempting to minimize this serious issue with your misleading post, but you are doing the city of Boston and indeed most cities a disservice. Pet waste is one of the leading causes of storm water runoff pollution in the city.

"There are some 83 million pet dogs in the USA alone that generate about 10.6 million TONS of poop every year and many millions of gallons of urine. That's enough poop to fill a line of tractor trailers from Boston to Seattle."

"Dogs can harbor lots of viruses, bacteria and parasites — including harmful pathogens like e coli, giardia and salmonella. (A single gram contains an estimated 23 million bacteria.) Studies have traced 20 to 30 percent of the bacteria in water samples from urban watersheds to dog waste.

Just two to three days of waste from 100 dogs can contribute enough bacteria, nitrogen and phosphorous to close 20 miles of a bay-watershed to swimming and shell fishing, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

It also can get into the air we breathe: a recent study of air samples in Cleveland, Ohio, and Detroit, Mich., found that 10 to 50 percent of the bacteria came from dog poop."

Only about 60 percent of dog owners claimed that they actually pick up after their pets. It is a huge problem.

"It was also noted in a 1982 study of Baltimore, Maryland catchments that dog feces were the single greatest contributor of fecal coliform and fecal strep bacteria (Lim and Oliveri, 1982)"

Edit: Added direct links for those who are too lazy to actually read the whole article.

Justice was served!

You're welcome my friend

Usually you have to register your dogs DNA with the building owners or HOA

This should be a citywide program in my opinion, all paid for by dog owners when they register their pet and violations should be expensive and involve picking up dog poop.

We really just need to make it illegal to use public sidewalks, other peoples private property and any non-dog park as an open sewer for peoples pets. It's not legal for a human to do so, and it shouldn't be legal for pets to either. There are plenty of places where owning or even just bringing a dog is not appropriate.

We don't need to live with this filth, Nobody needs to have a right to treat public property with such disrespect. All this pollution is easily avoidable and very bad for the sensitive ecosystems around the city when it washes into our waterways.

Naturally true service dogs do need to be able to have access, but their waste can also be managed.

Some people have no sense of humor, they are often the same sort of people who leave their dogs poop behind for other people to step in.

This is starting to feel like harassment now, it's time for you to move on please.

You can always tell who the bad dog owners are in a thread like this, they do things like accuse you of hating animals and make excuses for their irresponsible behavior and try to make it sound like you are the one who is being super unreasonable when all you are asking of them is to do the right thing and dispose of their pets waste responsibly and not treat the sidewalk or your lawn like as open sewer that they are welcome to fill with feces and urine.

> I’m all for picking up poop

Yeah, again, you just admitted in this very thread that you leave your dog poop behind for other people to step in when it is merely inconvenient for you to do the responsible thing and pick it up.

Yeah, we all get it, you leave your dogs poop for other people to step in

Animal waste is a serious environmental problem and one of the chief pollutants in storm water runoff. It harms the ecosystem and causes illness and algae blooms which can close beaches and make people and animals sick.

Also, using the sidewalk like an open sewer is what is super inconsiderate. It spreads filth and disease that makes people and animals sick and pollutes the ecosystem.

>Illustrious-Nose3100 · 13 min. ago
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>If I’m on my own street/neighborhood then yeah I’ll go back. But if I’m at the park I’m not driving back

>Edit: I’m not advocating for letting dogs pooping everywhere. I’m not even going to get into the argument of not letting dogs pee on the side walk/road because it’s asinine

LOL! You literally just admitted that you don't pick up after your dog when it is inconvenient for you. You are the problem, not your dog.

I don't trust people who are terrible dog owners.

Ugh, bad dog owners are the worst

Do you feel terrible though? I don't see you saying that you are coming back to pick it up?

Ugh

I think it's just super passive aggressive behavior by selfish, entitled, dog people, trying to punish everyone else because they are "forced" to simply pick up after their pet.

Firstly, I don't have to like dogs, in fact there is a lot about them that I dislike, but I am perfectly happy to coexist with them if people can just be responsible dog owners and take into account how their pet can negatively affect the people and places around them.

My issues obviously aren't really with the dogs themselves, but with the irresponsible, selfish, narcissistic, inconsiderate, people who are bad dog owners.