UndesiredEffect

UndesiredEffect t1_j4f31sf wrote

Reply to comment by LasciviousApemantus in UFO reports rise to 510, not aliens but still a threat to US by stevemilk

There's a lot of theories about warping space time as opposed to going really fast. Idk how anyone can be so assured that an unknown society of unknown ability couldn't possibly get here, or that the chances are low. Our technology in modern times is increasing exponentially in many areas and thats just taking into account the last 150 years.

How about a race 20000 years past where we are at?

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UndesiredEffect t1_j47w67g wrote

Reply to comment by themeatbridge in UFO reports rise to 510, not aliens but still a threat to US by stevemilk

But to only take the last 50 years worth of sightings and dismiss the rest doesn't make sense. Things have been seen in our skies since ancient times- it didnt start happening one day in the 50's.

Granted a lot of it was probably prosaic normal phenom that they didn't yet have the tools to understand, however there have been similar experiences with similar beings experienced in different parts of the world in different time periods. Not only that, but understanding the nature of our defense departments is basically: we won't say anything about anything unless we have decided it's more worthwhile to do so. They could have simply alluded to it being top secret technology, and that would have been the end of it. Heck, they've been saying since the 60-70's they have the technology to 'take ET home'. If you read Day After Roswell, by Colonel Corso, he's stated that the government basically gave this tech to private enterprise and told them to reverse engineer it and that the government would buy back whatever they made. Out of the hands of any law like FOIA, and still getting what they wanted.

Check out Lue Elizondo and AATIP. He was the director of the program and has gone on record about a great many things. His interview with Curt Jaimungal's Theory of Everything is a really good one to watch.

If another country has technology capable of the things that have been witnessed and caught on camera/radar, then I doubt they would be short-sighted enough to fly them brazenly and openly around our craft and systems in such ways as they have. It would not only negate any manner of surprise, but would also only encourage rapid technological development to counter said edge. And this technology could in an instant change the world.

Did you know that out of nearly 144* investigated sightings since 2004, the government could only positively identify one. That's incredible, given our capabilities especially in our own airspace.

Edit: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/ufo-report-government-can-t-explain-143-144-mysterious-flying-n1272390

"A senior U.S. government official said ahead of the report's release Friday that, "We have no clear indications that there is any nonterrestrial explanation for them — but we will go wherever the data takes us."(fair to say)

The official added: “We do not have any data that indicates that any of these unidentified air phenomena are part of a foreign collection program nor do we have any data that is indicative of a major technological advancement by a potential adversary." (weird af to say from a US techological capabilities standpoint--basically saying they have no* evidence that these unidentified things in our airspace are from another country either)

Edit 2: Here's one article about the recent legislation passing that would allow many people to go on record regarding projects related to UAP.

I dont know if it's ET, but its certainly something intriguing. I invite skeptics to do what I did and spend time looking into it in earnest.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/13/us/ufo-new-mexico-congress.html?smid=tw-share

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UndesiredEffect t1_j47k0hg wrote

Reply to comment by themeatbridge in UFO reports rise to 510, not aliens but still a threat to US by stevemilk

Nobody should be laughing at the hypothesis that these craft are not from here.

We are so confident, yet we, just like everything else in the universe, are just floating out here. We aren't cloaked. We aren't special. We are one of many planets, with a very young race compared to most things here. It's not outside of reason to have an older, more tech savvy race having developed FTL travel and have come here. For all we know, a race could have had their '2022' 50,000 years ago.

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UndesiredEffect t1_j47jkpr wrote

Reply to UFO reports rise to 510, not aliens but still a threat to US by stevemilk

Not sure I agree with the headline, but I also don't completely disagree. I think its from a non- human intelligence, but whether they are from outer space, or are from here, but dimensionally different, or if they are some race that lived here that is separate and secretive is anyone's guess. But I like to remind people that we have amazing capabilities and to even say that these things are unidentified is a huge, world shaking concession, considering the US and others have the ability to zoom into the pores of my skin from outer space.

  1. We have the most advanced aircraft in the world, with advance sensors and radar.

  2. We have complete coverage of the planet via satellites.

  3. We have space programs, rocket programs etc. that constantly scan and control airspace.

  4. We have commercial pilots, air force pilots, naval pilots, astronauts, politicians, generals and countless civilians that have gone on record to say that some of what we are seeing is more than likely not from a human nation, and have witnessed things that don't make sense under our current understanding of physics.

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