Agreed, the mad dash you describe is here to stay and a uniquely Penn Station problem. It is just too cramped to have it any other way in that bitch ass basement. That's the magic of Grand Central - it's built to circulate people a million times better. To hell with these whiny arguments about how deep the tracks are at GCT. Sure it's a pity but I'm moving on with my life.

If somehow they could fundamentally spread things out better at Penn, that would be pretty dope. I see the way they've blown out the area that used to be McDonald's on the 7th Ave side of Penn though and I'm starting to wonder if they're trying to make that more of an open space. I think there is a case for some low key optimism for what they're trying to do at Penn Station, just this one's opinion.

The station being so deep is definitely a pity, but people still have more options than they did before.

Getting from LIRR to the 4/5/6 is hardly the only benefit of LIRR@GCT, not sure why that's the only measurememt people are talking about. Inconvenient access to the 4/5/6 within Grand Central is hardly a new concept. It has always sucked ass getting to the 4/5/6, let alone transferring to the 7.

It's not that hard to imagine. You are guessing. I bullshit your bullshit. Give it a shot and see for yourself.

Gary Barnett must be stopped from sacrificing more NYC air rights to fetish objects like this.