Hey man, you're telling the wrong guy. I'm not licking anybody's boots. Police should 100% be accountable for their actions. Not just to the public either, but their peers need to speak up too. The biggest issues arise when there's complacency among a whole department. That is the situation that breeds police gangs.

Either way, I just think its a bit pathetic when you let the media convince you that cops are evil racist killers when youve never personally experienced that. You've just let the talking box dictate your own viewpoint which is complete seperate from your experience. It's silly.

Saying "YoUrE ParRoTiNg TaLkInG pOiNTs" doesn't just negate the argument lol. If 99% of people say "you should brush your teeth" you can't just say they're "parroting talking points" lol.

You're delusional.

It's not about firearms it's about gang violence. Follow the cookie trail of gangs and you'll find what you need to know.

Has nothing to do with gun laws.

People asking to defund the police aren't in gated communities in Maine.

The majority of calls for defunding the police were in minority communities in Baltimore, Chicago, and Minneapolis. Largely over already racial accusations.

I agree Ulvade was gross. And the only solution is being able to defend yourself. That doesn't change the fact that the police are still the only ones tasked with protecting you. Sure they may fail at that task and it is a shame that they do, but there's no one else out there to save you.

Lol I don't think you want to use that as a reference buddy.

Dude failed his background check. This failure should've triggered an investigation by the ATF. It should've triggered an investigation by the FBI. The mother and family was aware of mental illness. The mother had police oversee the transfer of the firearm to another party. Yet he still got his hands on it.

This isn't an example of needing more fun laws this is actually a perfect example of gun laws not working. And restricting guns even more will, again, not work. Criminals will find a way.

When we have no resources for the mentally ill, when we have incompetent federal agencies more concerned with disarming Americans than stopping mass shooters.

I agree that we have a problem. But I don't think it's the one you think it is.

We pay our politicians too but it's kinda expected that they don't really care about us. What's the difference?

I think that's a good question and we could genuinely have a constructive conversation about it if we act as rational adults.

>Do you think it's easier for a gang in the USA to arm their members with guns or a gang in Australia/Ireland/Germany/Spain/Scotland/Japan/etc to arm their members with guns?

I'm curious why you compare against majority European non-violent cultures with much lower gang presence. Japan has the Yakuza which would be the most significant all your list but every country you listed doesn't have what is considered a "gang problem". Why do you not compare to Mexico/Africa/Middle East/Brazil/Venezuela/Honduras/El Salvador, etc? Why does nobody talk about our closest neighbor, Mexico? Why don't we talk about how restrictive Mexican gun laws are (it takes months of paperwork, you can only have them on your property, you cannot carry one, etc)? Surely for a country with such restrictions in place, they should have virtually no crime, right?

Unfortunately that is not the case. While the majority of Mexican citizens are not killing each other in mass, the cartels are a significant cause for that violent crime rate. Interestingly enough, Mexico has a 1.6x higher firearms related death rate per capita that the US does (17.35 to 10.95 per 100k respectively). If firearm restrictions actually did anything about crime, surely this would not be the case.

Unfortunately, more firearm restrictions is not the closest correlation to crime. Crime rate follows gang related activity. That pattern is real and true across the world, regardless of firearms laws.

You sir have been effectively brainwashed into hating the only people tasked with protecting you. Congratulations.

Until you go to a gun store, do a 4473, and walk out with a gun, you are not aware of how the process even works. Also until you understand American city culture, kids with glocks at elementary school graduation, etc. So yes it matters if you're an American.

That's like me walking into a nuclear plant and telling the Director of Operations that he's doing something wrong. Who cares if I'm aware of the process, my opinion is just as valid, right?

You didn't answer my question. How do you stop a bad guy with a gun?

Also yes, kinda hard to stop a driveby at a funeral. Not sure you could've done any better.

Pretty sure funerals getting shot up is because we glorify gang violence, not because there's too many guns. I promise you this incident was gang related. The dude the funeral was being held for was killed in a shooting 2 weeks ago. The people literaly did a driveby this is gang related activity through and through. More gun restrictions will not stop this activity. These guys are already criminals. And criminals don't really tend to follow laws, hence being called "criminals".

See my other reply. When you vilify cops, yes they 100% will not risk their life for your community.

Yea and even though machine guns are illegal, that means it should be sooooo hard to get a glock switch..............

Guns will always be smuggled in, my friend. Unless they're being smuggled to you, they're being smuggled to someone without your best interest in mind. We have the means to legally fight fire with fire. "Equality of opportunity" some would call it.

Before I continue, are you even an American?

See but here's the thing, when you attack and vilify the people you PAY to be the good guys with guns, this sort of thing tends to happen.

An area has high crime. High crime leads to a large police presence. A large police presence in a black neighborhood means racism. Racism means the good guys with guns leave. Good guys with guns don't go anywhere near bad place where they're the only good guy. Boom, high crime area with no good guys who have guns.

Also, kinda stupid to argue good guys with guns don't stop bad guys with guns. What stops bad guys with guns? Gun free zones? Old age? Curious about how you plan on handling a bad guy with a gun.

2nd amendment or not, these guys would still be doing the same thing

Most of these guys are prohibited posessors and literally do not have 2A rights.

Good guys with guns tend to stay away from areas with large amounts of bad guys with guns