admiralvic

admiralvic t1_jd265du wrote

'Til Death.

It starts as a fairly generic sitcom. Newlywed couple buys a home in a new city with their neighbors being an older couple that is kind of over things. Eventually the show drops the newlywed couple, focuses on the older couple, and becomes a sitcom about the older couple dealing with their still at home kid and their loser boyfriend. By the end the loser boyfriend thinks he is in a sitcom, frequently comments on his wife being played by a different actress, which was played by multiple actresses by that point, and it just goes from there.

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admiralvic t1_j99g8a5 wrote

I'd say you're comparing apples and oranges.

While it's probably not the best term, I would consider Dexter a "fun" show. I'm not watching it because Dexter is playing 4D chess as he attempts to captures the criminal, avoid the police, aid them in a way that does not raise suspicion/get them to follow him, and manage to make it all work while trying to be normal.

Instead, Dexter is working with one of the least competent police forces on film, who wouldn't catch Dexter if he was wearing a shirt that said "I kill the Ice Truck Killer." There are some solid storylines, like season two when he is suspected by a single cop, and everything about Trinity showing Dexter he could potentially have it all are good, they really don't change the fact the series is filled with contrived plot points, and things often work because the narrative needs them to. It's the type of mindless excitement that is enjoyable, even if I wouldn't say season one Dexter is legitimately better than season one Westworld.

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admiralvic t1_j99faaq wrote

> so does anyone knows whats imdb popular tv shows list based on??

It's based off recent activity. This is why Velma is 20, even though a year from now I doubt many people will even remember it existed. The fact a series that ended 16~ years ago is still that popular is beyond impressive.

> while i've never seen anyone watching it or talking about it..

Beyond that, all these things change over time. It would be weirder if the series was still growing/had an extremely active fanbase after the only content added to it in the past decade was the poorly received movie.

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admiralvic t1_j93b8xg wrote

> So how come NBC is the only one promoting their shows still ?

I think some of this might be what you're looking at. Surprisingly, even after 16 years, The King of Queens still has an active Twitter account.

Beyond that, it helps that two of the series you mention are extremely popular, with the last one being especially popular in this circle. You can look at some other NBC series, such as Good Girls having zero promotion after the series, to even popular series like The Good Place being reduced to a marketing engine for other NBC/Universal proprieties.

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admiralvic t1_j09ghf7 wrote

> I got suckered into a one year subscription.

I was in a subscription that, thankfully, ran out the day after the latest Harley Quinn season ended. When I saw the yearly subscription deal come back, coupled with a few positive things (Gunn's promotion, Quinn special, etc), I thought maybe I was too hasty, but ultimately decided to stick to my guns.

Really happy I did, as I really don't know what is going on, but I don't feel like HBO is the type of service I'll gladly pay just to support. It makes me sad, mostly because I no longer know what is going to happen, or if it will be even a shell of its former glory.

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admiralvic t1_ix2ppq6 wrote

> Why do animated action shows need to sell tons of merch to stay afloat? Isn’t the ad revenue enough?

There are a lot of reasons, many of which I haven't seen mentioned.

> the show will cost 2 million per episode, that’s actually less than a lot of other shows like Friends, and Yellowstone, which don’t rely on merch to continue funding.

First and foremost, the audience size is completely different, both in viewership and range. Since you brought up Friends, the viewership for the final season averaged 53 million and basically never dipped below 30 million a season. Since you mentioned Young Justice, I'll use that for a kids show. Unfortunately, numbers are limited, but I can find numbers mostly in the 1 to 2 million range, which is also about where Sym Bionic Titan was as well. So, just in terms of views Friends had at least 15 times more viewers. In addition to that, an episode of Friends in the final season, which is about 25 times more views, was only 5 times more than your 2 million estimate. This basic math shows you how much more value the series alone had.

From there, range is massive. There are laws and other things that determine what you can advertise with a children's program. You simply aren't going to see depression meds, Adam & Eve, and equally inappropriate commercials with an episode of He-Man. Not only do laws prevent certain things, there are a lot of companies that see no value. Would you market a car if almost every viewer is a kid? How about HR Block? R rated movie? Shows also tend to have a lean, so even if girls watch He-Man, and boys check out My Little Pony, odds are you'll see ads that make sense for the average viewer. So, even they have views, the slots are worth a lot money. You have like 20 companies that might air a commercial, fighting for channels with over a hundred hours to air things with, fighting for the same group of people.

Finally, as others have said, some cartoons are actually a commercial, along with others getting supplemental value. Young Justice wasn't cancelled because of poor sales per se, it was cancelled because Mattel, who had the license, withdrew their financial support after failing to make enough money off their toys.

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admiralvic t1_iublt8g wrote

I like Grimm in the same way I find really bad movies enjoyable. There is enough there to see it's a decent show, but anytime the larger mysteries are shown it's clear they're making it up as they go and don't really care too much.

It's hard not to laugh at how they solved the key plot by episode 100 like they wanted.

Nick "I opened the top and found three keys." Monroe "Even though it contradicts our earlier lore about the Royals, the keys we happen to have are enough to deduce the map." Nick "What luck!" -at the place- Nick "Now, we need to find an old place." -randomly falls in a hole- Nick "Wait, I see the Grimm logo! It's here. Oh no, it requires all the keys. I'm going to need all my skill to open this." -smacks it- "Oh my god, we got the treasure and..." To be continued...

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admiralvic t1_isljlwu wrote

> Why are tv shows like "Sex Education" allowed to show full-frontal male nudity, but not female?

It's a choice.

> Years ago it was the males form you couldn't show nude... The only tv show I watched that shows more female nudity would be Game of Thrones.

I can't say I've kept track this, but I do recall Oz infamously had it and that was back in '97. Likewise, I recall Ash vs Evil Dead having female nudity, as well as Altered Carbon, Westworld and a few more. Like, it isn't something I keep track of, but it is something they can do and choose not to. Either for reception, artistic or some other reason.

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