anon2282 t1_j63k9im wrote

What are your findings, if any, and comment on the amount of salt that is used in the various cities around the great lakes whose storm water drains into them, untreated?

Growing up in Toronto, insemento notice that far more salt seems to be used today than ever before. On roads but particularly in plazas and parking lots.

I know the volume of water in the great lakes is immense but i have to imagine this is having a measurable effect.


anon2282 t1_iz5pixs wrote

I certainly know that's part of it but a majority of "old stock" white Americans don't identify with their British, German, Irish etc. Roots, either. White American culture is quite different from the western European cultures the people descended from, too.

Those that immigrated more recently, not unlike Canada, likely identify more with their ethnicity/country of origin.


anon2282 t1_iz5eqwq wrote

Surely race exists but it's an unscientific and unproductive framework in which to discuss human beings.

If you're American and this is tough to swallow, I understand. Your country frequently conflates race and culture. There is an white American and a black American culture. These cultures are distinct but they share some characteristics with the overall "American" culture.

You cannot say that of "white" or "black" people in my city because the "white" person could be french, Greek, Turkish or Ukrainian in background--these are all distinct cultures with little overlap. The "black" person may be Jamaican, Barbadian, Nigerian, or Somali,--these are all distinct cultures with little overlap.

They speak different languages, eat different food, worship different gods, and have different traditions. Of what use is it to group them together by race?

It's also worth noting that Nigerians in Toronto will often (unsurprisingly) identify with their particular ethnic group: Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, Edo etc. I have met Nigerians from all of these groups.

Most people in Canada do not identify by their race but certainly, and unfortunately, this is an increasing trend I am observing.


anon2282 t1_iz4m9fr wrote

As a Canadian from the largest city in the country, Toronto, (Montreal being the second largest city) both among the most diverse cities in the world (Toronto being #1 in this ranking, not sure about Montreal but I've been there dozens of times), any article in Canada that deals with race vs ethnicity or country of origin should be dismissed or, at the least, taken with a massive grain of salt.

We don't speak in terms of race here. It's pointless in a city with hundreds of different ethnicities. It's taking a US-centric view on race (which they often conflate with culture) and transposing onto a country with very different demographics, waves of immigration, culture, and history.

They even had to cite the bird watching incident in New York (not in Canada)--i can only suppose there wasn't a good Canadian example.

Race is an unscientific and unproductive way to divide, distinguish and discuss human beings, particularly in very diverse milieux.

20-30 years ago we mainly spoke of our or our parents countries of origin/cultures. Things that matter to people's identities. Over half of the people living in Toronto were born in another country. Now all I hear about is race and it doesn't fit up here.