applegeek101

applegeek101 t1_j1yyt3s wrote

Well, if someone says they are suicidal, we have to take it seriously. An ER doctor cannot clear patients who say they are suicidal, it has to be a psychologist, and most hospitals do not have one.

If they let you go before there is an evaluation and you go into the parking lot and kill yourself, then the hospital and the providers are liable for that and they can receive criminal charges. The nurses couldn’t care less about profit. They want to make sure you are not a threat to yourself before you’re released

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applegeek101 t1_j1y2aru wrote

That is simply not true. A psychologist performs an evaluation of the patient and determines whether or not they are a current danger to themselves or others and treatment goes from there. I have transported well above 100 psych patients and only 1 or 2 have been involuntary. Most patients in those crises want all the help they can. No one get institutionalized anymore. It’s a couple weeks of therapy at a behavioral health facility and then you get to go home

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applegeek101 t1_j1y1vav wrote

Hello, EMT here. There’s a difference between being involuntarily committed and voluntarily. Typically what will happen is that someone, either the patient themselves or close friend, family member, etc, will call with concern about the patient’s mental health. This can be suicidal thoughts, aggressive behavior, etc. Police and myself get called, police make sure that the person is not an immediate danger to others so that I can come in. I’ll come in, find out what’s going on and the backstory. Usually, the patient says, yes, I’ve been having some mental health issues, I want to go to the hospital. They ride in the back and everything is cool.

That is voluntary admission. The patient does so of their own free will.

Involuntary admission is when the patient presents and imminent danger to themselves or others as determined by myself and/or PD and they are refusing treatment or at least transport and evaluation by the hospital psychologist. Because they are a danger, they are involuntary brought in by PD and treatment proceeds from there.

Whether that distinction is made in the law, I do not know, but there is a difference between the two

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