How the fuck is blaming the music industry and their paid agents victim blaming?

No one compared black music to white music, unfairly or not, but you. It was never part of the discussion.

Smdh

Once again, idiot, I never said that I don't listen to modern hip hop. You just can't help but make shit up.

I know what I saw first hand. My interest is purely in support of the black community that is preyed upon by corporate opportunists with agendas.

Far from being racist. That's just what you wish my brown ass was because you can't understand someone caring about the people and not the music industry that claimes to represent them.

These are not new concepts and literally hundreds of hip hop artists and black leaders have said the same thing for decades.

It's painfully obvious that you don't know jack shit about this topic. Move on.

Is that so? Rap music is reflective of the black community? How would you describe the black community to someone according to rap music then?

This may have been the case 30+ yrs ago with street corner poets but the industry took over and actively financed the messages they sought to perpetuate.

Which is where we are today.

I'm nearly 50 and have been listening to music since before gangster rap existed.

I bought Straight out of Compton,day 1 on cassette. I listened to Digital Underground when Tupac was still a back up dancer. I saw Public Enemy and Anthrax live.

To this day I listen to 32days worth of streaming music alone each year.

What in the fuck do you think you're teaching me about this topic?

Fact: Dre took an opportunity sell self hate to the black community via the music industry and gangster rap. He himself was exploited into doing so. It began a destructive trend of selling luxury products and a violent lifestyle to impressionable and often poor people and packed the for profit prison system.

Aka: Pipeline to prison. (Look it up and learn.)

Why is this hard for you to comprehend? Why are you trying to make it seem like I'm criticising all black music and a culture that I have loved and respected my entire life?

To be clear: You back out of a civil discussion because you have nothing to offer, not because I'm ignorant...

-"You're really not getting the point here at all..."

No you're not getting it and it seems intentional at this point.

-"Gangster rap is black music and you're judging it's moral implications more harshly than you do white music."

Rap music is black, but all black music is not gangster rap.

I in no way judged "Black music" and never even mentioned any other music. How did I compare something I never mentioned?

You added "white music" and you are unfairly lumping all black music in with gangster rap.

The topic is Dre in this era. I made no mention of a disdain for "black music". I am clearly and specifically talking about Dre and the first gangster music he made that reached the mainstream.

I didn't mention Indian music either. Am I secretly defending Indian music?

What made you feel that I needed to add "white music" to this unrelated discussion about Dre and his contributions in this era?

You're not even addressing what I'm talking about, just asking, "Well, why are white musicians considered good?"

I never said black musicians are bad. Never said white ones were good.

You did.

Your words. I didn't say any of this at all. I never even mentioned "white" music at all, much less of this era.

How you going to try be upset by what you said?

That's not being argued. It remains very true and I can see it and I will defend it to the end.

Story telling from the streets is powerful. Like folk, blue grass, blues and jazz before it, Rap is a powerful form of honest story telling.

Doesn't mean it wasn't used exploitatively to fuck up communities and sell product by some in the industry.

Not at all what I said. I never said a thing about white enlightenment or rock being holy and good in comparison.

I listen to the hardest hardcore available in several genres. None of it was on the mainstream charts then and none of it pushes products to their fans like this did (and still does).

The topic is Dre and his genre in this era. I have listened to both rap and metal my entire life so that discussion can also be had if you are interested.

What are some examples of death metal in radio rotation or on the charts in this same era? What is the actual content of their work? Let's compare.

What are some examples of the social and cultural effects of this music on their listeners. What are the favorite guns, drugs, cars and luxury brands of 90 metal bands? How does this compare?

There's a reason you don't know...

There's a reason why 90s kids know gang colors, gun brands and Gucci products.

Cool intelligent rebuttal to an informed opinion, formated for easy reading and comprehension.

I couldn't help but notice that you also chunked your text for easier reading. Well done.

Just like the doom news, he decided to sell whatever the F we're buying. He was a pawn himself to the industry that was all too happy to push him.

Fake gangster music took over when American music was at a crossroads.

One day it was LL Cool J, De LA Soul and Eric B and Rakim. The next 'Niggas with Attitudes' was getting mainstream airplay across the nation.

It was used to demonize black youth and instill fresh new fear/hate in white America.

To this day violence and ignorance is promoted on radio and internet over all else.

You won't hear anyone intelligent or artistic or enlightened or positive or responsible unless you search for it.

Instead you'll hear mumble drugs and fake gangsters shooting each other for LVMH goods.

Now it's just a life of BS music from fake gangsters with autotune and no ethics 24/7.