chargeorge

chargeorge t1_jd0lil3 wrote

Legit, we have some of the highest police spending per capita in the country, and we have lots of efficiency since officers don’t need to spend a ton of time driving around, and we have relatively low crime. I don’t understand why we have such high overtime needs. My instinct is it’s officers prepping retirement but other comments indicate officers don’t like it either. We need something like the transit cost project for cops.

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chargeorge t1_jcbn7bb wrote

I mean if you have some research that shows these people are committing extra crimes in a way that distorts the numbers sure of love to see it.

There are some numbers in the study that suggest the opposite, that those who do re offend in the bail reform group go longer before re offending.

If you have some data I’m happy to see it, but tbh that point sounds like cope.

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chargeorge t1_jcb7ys4 wrote

> First, is that re-arrests for violent felony increased, and that is the one statistic that actually matters. Secondly, that “slight” increase occurred despite the fact that overall arrests decreased dramatically during the pandemic.

No, VFO re-arrests were down slightly, only among specific subgroups did the VFO re-arrest go up according to the study, for the other groups it was down. Because of that the overall VFO rate was lower.

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chargeorge t1_jcb74x4 wrote

No, that's not really how you should read that.

If violent felony re-arrests drops among the entire group, even if it went up slightly in one cohort, that's still a net drop. The recently had violent arrests groups is a small overall group.

So if you take this study at face value (Which, statistical studies like this are always going to be tough, and this is happening in the middle of a massive upheaval that makes any kind of data hard to parse) bail reform would suggest a lower number of re-arrests for crimes in total, and that bail reform dropped crime overall.

EITHER WAY, even the studies I've had that are more more critical of bail reform show very small effects. In terms of overall crime rates, bail reform is mostly just an emotional issue.

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chargeorge t1_j80cf90 wrote

I don't even think we need new capital construction to make that happen. We already run 6 minute headways for peak hours on most trains, this is just extending that frequency out all day. That estimate for costs I saw also would include busses. I would use the bus so much more if I knew I never had to wait longer than 6 minutes.

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chargeorge t1_j70dhnc wrote

I mean it literally happened in the past, its in the link. You also had pretty widespread police violence during the floyd protests (and no, not during the riots, kettling gassing and beating peaceful protesters). You've had repeated work stoppages, you've had police trying to foment a mob against shake shack employees. Hell they called in a huge fucking operation against someone for yelling at them.

Concern over a thing that happened in the past whle the NYPD continues to engage in bullshit is perfectly acceptable.

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chargeorge t1_j5wp9qb wrote

what a stupid bunch of things to say.
Fox news isn't the only source that's been on the crime hype train, local TV stations and the post have been going even harder. Also are we going to pretend like a half of a quarter of a half of the population of NY is a great representation of opinion? It's a system not designed to capture voter opinion on issues, because the dem party of NY doesn't want that, they want to push machine candidates.

Also stop trying to use minorities to shield your shitty opinions. You aren't protecting anyone.

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chargeorge t1_j5n81uw wrote

That’s the 1 at 168th, a few stops south of here.

The pictures of that station from when it opened had these huge chandeliers. Very cool.

They hung from the circle in the ceiling here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/168th_Street_station_(New_York_City_Subway)#/media/File%3A168th_Street_IRT_Broadway_2.JPG

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