>If there is more supply, it will immediately get filled up.

... yes, and those people won't be competing with you for existing supply.

Of course, I guess I meant we need to increase supply and what you mentioned are some of the key things we can do for that.

NYC has a housing shortage. When demand fell in proportion to supply during the pandemic, so did rents.

But from what I can see you don't believe in peer-reviewed research, so I think we can call it a day here.

There are people in this very thread disputing peer-reviewed research because "it's written by luxury housing developers" -- these people are beyond redemption and don't believe in what economists have to say. There's little point in debating tbh

Yes, all academics and thinktanks publishing this research are actually luxury builders in disguise. Please feed into more conspiracy theories.

https://www.upjohn.org/research-highlights/new-construction-makes-homes-more-affordable-even-those-who-cant-afford-new-units

https://academic.oup.com/joeg/article-abstract/22/6/1309/6362685?login=false

It doesn't matter if they build luxury units. The people that can afford those luxury units will opt for those units, easing the demand for smaller townhomes. https://escholarship.org/content/qt5d00z61m/qt5d00z61m.pdf?t=qoq2wr

Of course we need to prioritize housing for all, but any housing built is helpful.

That's not how things work.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/04/theres-no-such-thing-luxury-housing/618548/

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-05/what-adding-luxury-housing-does-to-rents-elsewhere

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/affordable-housing-debate/

https://www.fullstackeconomics.com/p/how-luxury-apartment-buildings-help-low-income-renters

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/upshot/luxury-apartments-poor-neighborhoods.html

Oh also…maybe building more

Well the city can't be highly coveted and the center of everything and be cheap at the same time -- it's expensive because so many people want to live there and there is little supply

That's the city's problem - perhaps the city needs to stop calling other parts of the country inhumane for sending migrants to NYC and then following it up by bussing them to Canada. I'm not saying NYC has the resources to deal with it or whatever, but this is deeply hypocritical

https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/10xi944/some_migrants_bussed_to_canada_already_heading/

You can take a look here.

I'm absolutely not saying TX handles the crisis reasonably and they definitely need to stop sending more people elsewhere because they do get federal funding to handle this.

I'm mainly talking about people's perceptions towards immigrants changing, which is sad to see, and potentially proving republicans right when they say you will change your tune when you have migrants come to your city. I find the anger in this thread (and many others of late) to be misdirected towards the migrants than the city/government. I agree with your take in general, but I find many others are just blaming the migrants.

I’m a liberal, but NYC complaining is just proving Texas right about this

Do you realize why landlords have so much power? Because the supply is restricted. Even peer reviewed research doesn’t seem to get through people like you.

Ok why are you ignoring arson?

They feel lighter and are often more gel-based as opposed to cream based. In my experience they are also much cheaper

Keep denying peer reviewed research. Even Brookings disagrees with you. https://www.brookings.edu/research/what-does-economic-evidence-tell-us-about-the-effects-of-rent-control/?amp

Well it’s not really the looks as much as the motivation behind the (far?) left (I’m liberal) wanting everything to be ripped out and transformed from the ground up. Abolish the police, all men are trash, or in the case of these protesters, gentrification kills. It’s not that there is absolutely no merit to any of their arguments - it’s that the extreme stances reduce them to caricatures that most people trying to go about their day (center of the spectrum) couldn’t care for. It’s not like these ideas “look bad”, some of them just lack nuance. There is good evidence from economists on building more and increasing supply even if they are “luxury” units because it reduces neighborhood housing prices. Rent control isn’t a good idea even according to Brookings but you won’t find any dearth of people railing against capitalism calling for rent controlling ALL units on r/nyc. (Before you come at me, I’m a brown liberal but not an American, if i could I would vote blue always.)

They have like a laundry list of ridiculous demands though. Penn buying the UC townhouses property is going to cost MILLIONS, and they’re definitely not getting that out of their endowment - and it’ll only make it harder for middle class people to afford going to Penn.

They also want to abolish penn police..

They also want to abolish Penn police (many of whom are black btw) ….

Some time ago there was someone complaining on the penn subreddit about all the service staff being largely black despite the demographics of west philly being largely black. And had they not been black they would’ve probably complained about hiring white people and not giving jobs to POC. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t

While I understand and agree with your point, college students graduate and go where their friends go. And sadly the bay area, chicago, and nyc have been made into hubs for students to move to for various reasons and philly just doesn’t have the same appeal. A lot of this is based on perception and I always say philly has a lot of potential but needs a lot of good marketing/propaganda to hype it up (tbh I would live here though I’m not sure I would raise a child here - “gritty” is not appealing)

Crime + not as many high paying jobs as nyc/boston/chicago/bay area/austin