Fucking PLEASE. At the very least let yourself graduate to “fuck around and find out” – it’s only been overused for like the past ten years, not twenty.

Yikes Phoenix

It sounds like it may be out of the price range you’re working with, but my most successful car purchases have been certified pre-owned from a same-make dealership.

Most recently I bought a CPO Mazda from Rohrich Mazda and had a good experience – not much haggling to be done (which apparently is pretty standard these days with “internet pricing”), but the salesman (Jay, I think?) was low-pressure and communicated well, got me a good deal on my trade-in, and threw in some nice little extras. A nice add-on perk is that Rohrich offers lifetime free oil changes and state inspections (though not emissions tests) on every car they sell. I’ve done both multiple times – in and out with no charge and no upselling.

Haha it’s not that serious buddy, I just thought it was funny. Have a good one!

I feel like I’m traveling to the past repeatedly by reading this thread and seeing the same conversation play out over and over.