So tell me... are kids from yeshivas graduating being unable to read and write? I'm more interested in actual evidence, not "critical thinking".

First of all, the claim that they are not being taught reading and writing honestly sounds politically manufactured to me. If all of your classes are called "Religious Brainwashing" and you read the bible all day every day and write essays about it, you might not have "Reading" and "Writing" classes, but you sure as hell are able to read and write. (And it doesn't sound like Hasids are graduating school unable to read and write, are they? Historically speaking, their communities tend to prioritize education and work mainly white collar jobs.)

So you took the absence of reading and writing classes and compared that to terrorists learning to blow people up. And now you wonder why people are looking at you side eye...? Hmm.

The way I see it is that if you are paying for your child to go to a specific school it is because you are approving of the curriculum they are teaching and the methods they are using to educate your child (be it hasids hitting kids or nuns slapping with rulers). And as long as the amount of physical interaction is not to the extent that it is illegal were it to happen in your home, then the state should leave it alone.

(And this is also an excellent reminder of why ZERO tax dollars should be going to any private religious institution -- for ANY reason!! In "real" schools, you don't get to hit my fucking kid.)

Lol! I've been taking that shuttle for years and years now and just got fucked by it last month. (They really need to take the sign down from Roosevelt Ave, if the Q70 is picking up in the back pullthru now!)

https://web.archive.org/web/20221126012130/https://www.nytimes.com/article/nypd-ring-app-surveillance.html

Interesting stats! Lots of different breakdowns there. And yep, they can be spun in any direction they want the narrative to go.

And I see what you're saying about the odds of knowing someone who got assaulted, but still... as the number is actually less than it was last year, yet the fear has increased (by seemingly a lot), there is another factor at play here. And I've seen first-hand how the media operates, so my normal cynicism is on high alert with this one!

https://compstat.nypdonline.org/2e5c3f4b-85c1-4635-83c6-22b27fe7c75c/view/89

But everyone makes the choice for themselves how to react and how to live. I personally choose to take it all with a grain of salt - to stay aware of my surroundings, to not stand right at the platform edge lol, and to not live in fear. Because with the exception of 9/11, that has always been the NY way. :)

I get what you're saying, but I'd be curious to see the felony assault stats if you have them. Because in a city of 8 million people, going from a 0.005% chance of being harmed to a 0.006% chance (or whatever the actual number may be)... while it's certainly something to be aware of and to look into why we are trending slightly upwards, it's still not really a legit reason for people to be sounding the alarms or fearing for their safety.

The coverage I've seen in the media, combined with the fact that multiple friends from many states away (who used to live here) have said to me that they "heard the city got really bad these days"... Yeah I don't believe that's just a coincidence. I think it's an intentional shaping of the narrative for personal or political gain

Edit: i actually went back to the NYPD link - the article was written in June but as of October, the number of felony assaults have actually gone down while murders are now higher - but still neither in any significant way.

Sorry, it was the Daily News article that the other guy linked above.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections-government/ny-nyc-crime-poll-ny1-siena-college-20220607-7f3g7yxtqnawhflxuuapf5s4ue-story.html

And yes, I have. Murders and deaths have gone down while robberies and burglaries have gone up. But they're nowhere near the rates of past decades. (There's a link in that article to the NYPD stats page as well)

And it can also be true that politicians and the media use propaganda to control you.

And fear is the easiest and most effective, because fear is personal and it is paralyzing. People who are afraid tend to make bad and hasty decisions. (Hell, Americans voluntarily gave up ALL of our rights to privacy after 9/11. We created the NSA and accepted the fact that they are always watching. We install apps on our phones to spy on our online activity. We accepted being barricaded and penned in at all city parades and big gatherings. We accepted metal detectors and bag checks at every building and cameras on every corner. We accepted the joke that is airport TSA. And we've even helped them to spy on us by getting Alexa devices in our homes and Ring doorbells to spy on our neighbors. (Oh and let's not forget the "If you see something, say something" campaign that led to a nation of Karens feeling entitled to harass people on the street because they didn't "look like they belong there"!) And honestly, what did it actually get us?? Have these tactics made us any safer or just easier to monitor? And at what price to our freedom? And it's also not just personal safety that they use fear for. Do you remember the last 2 weeks of Bush Jr's presidency where they told us that if we didn't bail out wall street to the tune of trillions of dollars our economy would collapse and this country would die? There were no hearings or discussions or rational conversations had... They just backed up the truck and filled it with money to dole out to his buddies before leaving office. And people accepted it because they were told to be afraid of what would happen if they didn't. Same with the idea that immigrants are murderers and rapists who are taking all of your jobs, when the truth of the matter is that corporations are hiring less people in order to pay their executives more.)

There are a million examples I could use, but the premise is always the same, time and time again -- Convince people to be afraid of something and you can get them to agree to anything. There is no factual or legitimate reason for 75% of New Yorkers (NYCers?) to suddenly fear for their lives when the amount of actual increase in crime is either negligible or has gone down.

They are playing you. And I think that this country as a whole needs to wake up and recognize the manipulation that is taking place.

And oh look at that!!

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/foxs-coverage-violent-crime-has-dropped-after-midterms

Gee... If only someone had seen THAT coming... 🤔

Turn off the brainwashing and live your fucking life.

There's a difference between addressing policy and spreading fear.

Show me actual numbers (as I did for you).

Is going from 350 to 450 people in a city of 8 million ( 0.004% vs 0.005% chance of being harmed) really a reason to everyone to suddenly fear for their lives?? Or is it manipulation.

You keep arguing that your fear is justified. And I am telling you that is not based in reality. (Or math)

Do you remember back to the 2018 midterms where Trump was declaring states of emergency and sending federal troops to the border because supposedly caravans of murderers were flooding into this country? (Very conveniently right before the election!)

https://www.huffpost.com/archive/in/entry/donald-trump-fabricating-border-crisis-before-election_in_5c1200c1e4b0508b21373791

And then do you remember all of that fearmingering just miraculously being swept under the rug the week after the elections?

I remember.

This was not a coincidence. It was a political strategy. And it is the VERY SAME strategy that they used leading up to these midterms. Because getting people to be afraid is how they get elected. (And it's clearly working if 75% of the city is suddenly afraid for their lives and the suburbs flipped Republican for the first time ever.)

We've seen it time and time again, since 9/11 and beyond. And it's important that we start recognizing it for what it is. They are manipulating people's emotions to be able to better control them.

Edit: you downvoted me, and yet look what came out today!

https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/foxs-coverage-violent-crime-has-dropped-after-midterms

Imagine that.

I'm sorry but did you say that comparing crime rates from 25 years ago to today is irrelevant because many people were not born then??

Statistics matter because they show that the crime rate has NOT jumped in any significant matter (and in fact has decreased in terms of life-threatening encounters), yet an overwhelming portion of the population is far more afraid than they were.

Think about WHY that would be. (Hint: You are being manipulated!)

No, the truth is that "the rest of us" actually have, yet you refuse to believe it.

According to your own source (which I'm not sure the Daily News really is a legit source lol, but at least it's better than the Post!)... The link to the NYPD crime stats show that crime in 2022 vs 2021 was 2,331 incidents vs 2,344 incidents (so LESS this year than the same time last year). And as far as the specific crimes go, murders and shootings are down while robberies and burglaries are up (which is not surprising in an economic crisis).

And yet 75% of New Yorkers are somehow much more afraid for their lives!

Why???

This fear is not based on reality... It is based on the spin of the media and politicians. Because that is how they control you and how they win elections.

I think you need to take a long hard look at actual statistics before spreading fear. (And in a city of 8 million people, less than 500 people murdered is NOT a reason for people to freak out. Especially when in reality, it is actually far lower than most years in the past half a century.)

Seriously... It's time to open our eyes and look beyond the spin and stop letting ourselves being controlled by fear.

Year Murders 1928 404[note 1] 1929 425 1930 494 1931 588 1932 579 1933 541 1934 458 1935 1936 510 1937–1938 1939 291 1940 275 1941 268 1942 265 1943 201 1944 288 1945 292 1946 346 1947 333 1948 315 1949 301 1950 294 1951 243 1952 309 1953 350 1954 342 1955 306 1956 315 1957 314 1958 354 Year Murders 1959 390 1960 482 1961 483 1962 631 1963 548 1964 636 1965 634 1966 654 1967 746 1968 986 1969 1043 1970 1117 1971 1466 1972 1691 1973 1680 1974 1554 1975 1645 1976 1622 1977 1557 1978 1504 1979 1733 1980 1814 1981 1826 1982 1668 1983 1622 1984 1450 1985 1384 1986 1582 1987 1672 1988 1896

Year Murders 1989 1905 1990 2245 1991 2315 1992 1995 1993 1946 1994 1561 1995 1177 1996 983 1997 770 1998 633 1999 671 2000 673 2001 649 2002 587 2003 597 2004 570 2005 539 2006 596 2007 496 2008 523 2009 471 2010 536 2011 515 2012 419 2013 335 2014 333 2015 352 2016 335 2017 292 2018 295

Year Murders 2019 319 2020 468 2021 488

Edit: apologies for the formatting. it looked nice when i hit enter! lol

I've lived in this city for many decades and you clearly do not know (or have conveniently chosen to forget) what the crime rate here used to be.

The amount of increase in crime over the past 3 years is nowhere near proportional to the amount of fearmongering that is currently taking place in cities all across this nation.

I believe that if anyone is being gaslighted here it is you. And so again, I will suggest that you take a long hard look at their motives and think about why you are seeing so much coverage of crime in the media lately.

It is not a coincidence -- it is a strategy that has been proven to work.

You can claim that Dems are "ignoring crime" but I would argue that Republicans have been "sensationalizing crime".

Fear has been proven to be their ultimate tool for control and they have used it time and time again to convince people that they either give up all their rights or die (ex stop and frisk, broken window policing, immigration, 9/11, etc).

I will not be feeding into that narrative because it is a false one.

NY is not overridden by crime -- it is (like much of the rest of the country) being overridden by fear-mongering. And statements like yours merely help propel their lies into the mainstream.

I'm sure many people prospered... but at what price.

And sorry, but I'll take the hookers and fortunetellers and drug dealers and fake ID shops and mom and pop stores ("no man's land" as you called it) over the Disneyfied bullshit we have now.

If i wanted to live in Florida I would have moved there. This is NYC.

80's/90's is a weird parameter.

In the 70's and 80's crime was hitting an all-time high, but then Giuliani and Bratton came in in the 90's. They sold midtown to Disney and turned the city into a police state. (Outlawed dancing in bars, outlawed street vendors, started the horrificly abusive practices of "broken window policing" and "stop and frisk", set up pens and barricades for all parades, and generally ruined this city.)

I get that crime is getting worse. But I just want to remind everyone that another Giuliani and more policing is NOT the answer here.