groundhogcow

groundhogcow t1_j3eeqea wrote

Not the bee barns I am talking about. Likely we are in the wrong bubbles. Go here and watch vino farms in there fist year experimenting with the bear barns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z768OIA3bMo

I am interested in that type of bees you have. Are they wild bees from a caught swarm are did you buy them someplace?

Different types of bees need different types of care. I think wild bees might be ok in what your setup is but something like Italian bees would have an issue. I like the Warre hives but the low inspection rate concerns me. There are cases where it would be ok though.

When I inspect my hives I am looking at several things.

  1. Do they have enough space.
  2. Are they bringing in enough food.
  3. Has anything happened to the queen.
  4. Are any pests damaging the bees, wax moths, hive beetles, mites, mice, and bears. (Bears are easy to detect)
  5. Have they caught any diseases. Like Foulbreed disease remember that one. Or several others.

Tame bees should be kept from swarming. They can't make it on there own and become big bundles of disease and mites that infect others with there drones or robbing. Wild bees require much less attention but it would be good to still check them occasionally for deceases.

You can not be sure about honey production with wild bees so I hope you got some good ones.

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groundhogcow t1_j39l8fv wrote

We are start someware so it's cool.

The primary proponent of Warre hives is into "natural beekeeping" in which the hive is only a part.

He also encourages swarm catching. In particular wild swarm catching as apposed to caching swarms of tame bees.

The swarm of wild bees are still alive because they are good at fighting off disease and taking care of mites. At least in theory. So it's the bees that make them resistant not the hive. I tried a swarm catcher this year but didn't get one so I am still raising my Italian girls. I have Carolina bees coming which I am told are better at mite control but still to the point they need beekeeper help. I got them for there better cold weather behavior and not there mite control properties.

Lanthanum hives are just traditional and what all the equipment is designed for. There are a bunch of other types. Warre being one with some interesting designs but it's the bees that make them disease and mite resistant. You should find out ore about hives in plastic bottles and the Bee-Barn which are getting a lot of attention. (If I could just buy a bee barn I would have two tomorrow.)

Hives and beekeeping methods need to be done together. Some types of bees need different things then others. Like any type of livestock the care required depends on the breed. I really like the warre hives but it's notat I am doing currently. I might if my swarm catcher gets me some wild bees.

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groundhogcow t1_j399uvc wrote

The type of hive is not what makes mites. It's the behavior of the bees.

Warre hives are most commonly filled with caught swarms or native bees. They have a more natural defense having been in the wild longer. However, mites are new. The only bees that have long-term exposure and immunity are the Asian bee. They tried bringing that bee to countries struggling with mites, but it cross bread with existing bees and killer bees were born. So you have to watch how you mix bees.

The most common type of bees are Italian Bees because they are very gentle. They also have 0 mite resistance. So they need a lot of care or they will swarm and just go off into the woods and die. What a waste. That is why people disturb them. There are several other types of bees that have had success that beekeepers are trying. As well as wild bees which is hit or miss on their resistance since some will be bees are just Italian bees someone didn't check on. A strain of bees takes time to cultivate and determine their characteristics.

Warre hives are fine and have some advantages but they are not great for commercial honey production. At least not until they have had enough time to adapt all the equipment to different sizes and shapes.

But none of this has a thing to do withFoulbreed disease.

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groundhogcow t1_j22ags6 wrote

The biggest problem is not picking the kids it's coming up with a way to get the next generation.

In case you have never raised kids they are notorious for not doing what they are wanted to. So two generations in and the ship is chaos. It had better be self relent because so few of the kids will be qualified.

What we need is a stable social system and a proper education system that has a much higher success rate. Or a very very very big ship.

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