gulfofmainah

gulfofmainah t1_ishfw1f wrote

Well thank you for showing your maturity by making false assumptions on my brain and habits and I’m happy to know your high school based report on a study that is 40 years old is more well rounded and researched than current ongoing studies let’s look at a study done by UMaine scientists. https://www.pressherald.com/2022/06/12/umaine-scientists-see-long-term-hope-for-lobster-fishery-despite-warming-waters/

It lays out because the Gulf of Maine has unique currents, Maines abundance of tidal rivers and the large tides in the Bay of Fundy and large differences in salinity levels across water columns that the average bottom temperature even in the summer is in the mid to upper 50s which is 10 degrees cooler than the temperature known to cause stress on a lobster. Kathleen Reardon, senior lobster scientist for the Maine Department of Marine Resource has stated even under the worst case scenario we are 50 plus years away from reaching a 68 degree ocean floor temperature in the summer and that warming surface temperatures have created ideal conditions for young larval lobsters.

The full report done by Umaine

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/gcb.14778

stating the “Thermally mediated dilution hypothesis” which shows how the surface warming in the gulf does not translate to quickly warming ocean floor temperatures (ocean floor being where lobsters inhabit) in the gulf of Maine due to the several factors stated earlier. Now I’m sure Cousteau was using the best information available at the time to draw his conclusions but like all science it has to be constantly reviewed and with the current information we have the worst case view is 50 years before we enter into the conditions that won’t be ideal for lobsters.

It’s also worth adding that in the 80s when talk of the lobster stock collapsing soon to today in 2022 the estimated population of lobsters in Maine has increased 515% and the Maine Department of Marine Resources and NOAA do lots of hands on work with lobsterman, state run and federally run boats to reach these estimates each year. So while you may find my take comical several scientists and the Maine Department of Marine Resources who have vast amounts of information and combined hundreds if not thousands of hours of research each year don’t agree with your assumption.

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gulfofmainah t1_isgg76o wrote

Comparing the Cod Fishery or Shrimp Fishery to the Lobster Fishery is comparing two completely different things. If it be net fishing for Cod or hooking the vast majority caught was kept while the vast majority of lobster caught in traps are realized because of min and max size restrictions and 100% of breeding females are released. Saying the Shrimp fishery has collapsed isn’t a truthful statement Canada still has a thriving fishery Maine could as well but it’s a three state council that decides the shrimp season and quota and for a decade now Mass and NH have voted no on opening the season and Maine has voted yes and has backed it up with data collected by the Maine DMR showing the healthy stock within Maine waters. The shrimp have moved into more Northern waters of the gulf but have no disappeared. You can go to any seafood store and buy gulf of Maine day boat frozen shrimp from Canada. Beyond that if it had collapsed it’s because net dragging for shrimp catches and harvest every shrimp be it small big male female while trap based shrimp fishery only harvest non egg bearing shrimp because they stay further up in the water column while carrying eggs and only go to the sea bed to release them. Maine has very strictly regulated fishery with sustainability and visibility as the base of all state regulations. On a average day lobsterman throw back into the ocean alive 10x as many as they keep.

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gulfofmainah t1_isgbysa wrote

What happened was the fishery turned into one of the best regulated and healthy stock fishery in America. There is no talk about the fishery collapsing anytime soon. Sustainable practices within the fishery only allow for a small percentage to be caught and sold into the market the vasty majority of lobsters stay on the ocean bottom and 100% of breading females stay on the bottom. So please explain on why you think my comment suggests anything other than flawed predictions of the fishery collapsing over the last 70 years.

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gulfofmainah t1_isga58f wrote

I’m a full time lobsterman with a college education half the fisherman I know have some college or a full degree, you’re making broad blanket statements here. I know plenty of carpenters, caretakers and workers in other Maine industries who are drop outs so what’s your point?

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gulfofmainah t1_isg9ael wrote

Even the most conservative estimate among environmental scientists has the Maine lobster fishery at a extremely healthy stock and warming waters are actually beneficial to the growth cycle of junivenal lobsters the alarm for collapse is no where near close and if it was than these regulations wouldn’t be suggested if the marine biologist actually thought the fishery was close to done than they wouldn’t be actively worried about entanglements because according to your research and reviews it’s about to collapse immediately.

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gulfofmainah t1_isdkqmu wrote

Replaced? Star fish have made a historic comeback after a couple decades of invasive green crabs. Star fish on the shore was the regular for thousands of years. Green crabs became very prevalent in the last 30-40 years in the bilge of tanker and cruise ships which also have been linked to a dozen whale deaths during the same period. I’d say the industry destroying the gulf of Maine isn’t the lobster fishery

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