hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3tj5ez wrote

It’s two sides of the life. First of most people living in vehicles are marginal as fuck. In spent two years in mine after Afghanistan. I’ve spent over a year of my life living in a tent as well.

Secondly, not every homeless person on drugs is on heroin, and in fact many aren’t serious drugs addicts.

It’s a super diverse community. You don’t know these people and I work with them for months at a time out of pocket. These TikTok people trying to monetize homelessness aren’t the people in the trenches of the housing crisis.

There are many people living in cars and RVs right now to avoid insane rents. I sold RVs and live in one so I know it’s happening. They buy buses too. Anything is better than rent for many of us. Why would you spend 50% of your income on housing? If you don’t have rent or a mortgage you don’t have to work full time to survive.

I work half the year and can still save moderately.

I dunno what to tell you, but housing is optional to a lot of people.

I would like to see the prices of rent normalize but that ship seems to have sailed. Instead they’ll keep passing anti camping and anti RV laws to try to force people back into working for Blackrock capital.

Like I said I don’t feel sorry for them, but I’ve spent thousands of dollars and months of my time feeding and helping people who lost their homes or chose not to have one. I just try to help when I can.

I just think it’s tragic what’s happened to this country.


hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3tgyf6 wrote

I just spent most of June and July working full time as a volunteer with homeless drug addicts in Colorado. Again I’m speaking from experience. I like these people, but most of them would never choose housing over drugs. If people don’t want treatment you can’t house then because it gets destroyed. I and many like me gave up traditional housing because it’s a scam anyways. Visit r/vanlife for an example. Why would anyone pay 1200-2000 a month in rent? I don’t know what you think you know about marginal communities but I’ve spent 8 months in the last 2 years volunteering with unhoused and displaced people full time and I could educate you.

No one who works with homeless communities thinks that drug addicted ones want housing fyi. We know they don’t because they tell us they don’t.


hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3t9w4r wrote

Dude talk to homeless people. They like being out there and many are high as fuck. It’s a lifestyle. Many don’t want to get clean and they don’t want jobs. They like being high and getting benefits like food stamps and economic aid. Have you ever worked in those communities? Being homeless is an economic strategy at this point.

Why would you work 40-50 hours a week to spend half your income on rent when you can sleep out and get benefits for not working? I don’t understand why more people aren’t choosing that path. Frankly living in my truck and buying a trailer has saved me tens of thousands of dollars a year in rent. I work when a I want to. I don’t do the drugs, but it’s liberating to be able to go where you want when you want. I don’t think you understand what’s going on in the margins of this society at all.

Since I’ve been back from Afghanistan I’ve never had a lease or a mortgage and spent years living in a vehicle to save money even while I worked.

Why would you choose to be a wage slave?

Once you get used to being homeless it’s way better than working at McDonalds or a factory. It’s freedom.


hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3t6ikd wrote

Many of these people are economic migrants plain as day. This is class warfare masquerading as a moral obligation. If they’re legitimately seeking asylum then they should go to a point of entry and claim it legally. That’s not what many of these people are doing because that’s not what many of these people are.

It’s like the homeless. Many homeless people want to be homeless because they get to live without responsibility and do their drugs.

I don’t feel bad for these people.

I feel bad for the people who live here who are struggling to pay rent because it’s doubled in a few years and letting millions of people across the border to compete for the limited housing isn’t going to anything positive.

You act like millions of economic migrants who come here to work under the table doesn’t have negative impacts on the working class.

I read and was convinced of this issue by Cesar Chavez. That man was right then and he is right now. I just wish he had picked kinder language.


hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3t5bhw wrote

So the nearly 10,000 people Texas has sent to NYC we’re all lied to? The system they’re using is very similar to what Colorado was doing until like literally yesterday. They just chose to make it a media event. People are sleeping outside of churches on the border because they ran out of room to house so many people. It’s madness


hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3t3n4h wrote

I want people to stop pretending that the Democratic Party is on the right side of this conversation. They seem very content right now to paint anyone who says this humanitarian crisis is a serious issue as a racist or white supremacist. The GOP is a cesspool of bigoted morons whose donors benefit from the status quo, but to see what has been allowed to happen the last two years at the border is just horrific. It’s not moral or ethical and it will not end well for the majority of this country.


hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3szhks wrote

Immigration and illegal migration are two very different things. Legal and controlled immigration should be encouraged, but until you stop the flow of millions of migrants across the border you can’t have a functional system. There is nothing ethical or moral about an open border. It’s only good for those who exploit the working class and the migrants.

This is a country that was built by giving away land to emigrants and immigrants. I have no negative feelings about these people, but the idea that we should celebrate the Democratic Party allowing this to fester and grow for two years is ridiculous.

I mean honestly before this article did you know Democrats in Colorado was also bussing migrants away? People can attack me all they want for saying it, but if you went to these places first hand like I did you’d realize how serious the situation is.

This is the same mentality I see on Reddit when then think that magic “insurance” pays for the shops that were burnt down in the riots of 2020.

We saw all that damage, and the loudest activists bought mansions and the Police just set a new record for officer shootings. Yay!

People take so many positions because they are cosmetically progressive, but take very little time to consider the lives of other people that are impacted.


hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3sx8i0 wrote

Letting millions of people pour across your border to be exploited while your own economic conditions deteriorate is not a moral decision. There is a reason the Cesar Chavez set up camps of Union workers at the borders to literally turn in and beat back migrants crossing illegally and it wasn’t because he for white supremacy.


hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3sx3ju wrote

Letting millions of people pour across your border to be exploited while your own economic conditions deteriorate is not a moral decision. There is a reason that Cesar Chavez set up camps of Union workers at the border to literally turn in and beat back migrants crossing illegally and it wasn’t because he for white supremacy. Union farm labor was eventually defeated by the exploitation of migrants.

We celebrate Cesar Chavez while ignoring what he stood for and what he fought for.


hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3svhaq wrote

I think you need to go travel the border. I went up and down the Rio Grande this summer from Laredo all the way to almost El Paso and actually illegally crossed into Mexico at three points just to do it. The water level was so low this summer many points of crossing were available where water was barely knee deep.

I talked with a lot of people down there and what the cartels are doing is horrific. The amount of rape and human misery is staggering. To do nothing about this crisis is deplorable immoral and exploitative. This isn’t a positive thing going on in this country and the fact that the absurdity that is the Republican Party are the only people willing to speak about this issue should really concern working class voters. What we are allowing to happen at the border is not a humanitarian gesture.

The fact that Colorado is overwhelmed enough to pay people to leave and they aren’t on the border speaks loudly. I understand that Republicans are amoral fear mongers, but what is happening right now not ok. We don’t even have enough housing for people who live and work here legally. Where are we going to house millions of people arriving who come unannounced? To pretend that unfettered migration isn’t damaging the economics of lower income people who are legally here is just putting your head in the sand.


hungaryhasnodignity t1_j3sucpc wrote

They absolutely didn’t run weed on the ground level until recently. This has been devastating for smaller grows that we’re legally operating under the previous laws. Now everyone is back to being criminals that I know and it went from a job that paid living wages to one where large monied interest exploit migrants. This is not a positive change