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ilreppans t1_j9yacgm wrote

Reply to comment by iframe__ in Turning off Wi-Fi or Bluetooth is a pain for no reason whatsoever. by Krugen7

Folks don’t like when you question ‘the Apple way’. The other Apple ‘ploy’ is to require the GPS ON in order for their charge ‘optimization’ to work - the AirTag system requires both BT and GPS to work. IDK about others, but my charge routines are based sole on the clock (which adjusts for time zone).

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ilreppans t1_j5qp13c wrote

Reply to comment by samwood2809 in Charged at 12 but says i didn’t charge til 5am, what’s the green bar below 12? Why does it say I didn’t charge til 5 when i did, thankyou by samwood2809

Yeah mostly mean restart the graphs, the phone will wake and go to standby/locked screen when it decides it has enough juice, but won’t restart batt graphs until you login.

Back to the beginning, only 2 reasons I’ve seen where you plug-in but doesn’t charge is the heat problem and iOS16 bugs.

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ilreppans t1_j5qnkpc wrote

Reply to comment by samwood2809 in Charged at 12 but says i didn’t charge til 5am, what’s the green bar below 12? Why does it say I didn’t charge til 5 when i did, thankyou by samwood2809

It wasn’t fully charged at 5am, I can see the power still increasing even in the 6-7am period

I circled where it died above.

The phone should be in standby - On, but in this rare case following a shutdown, not recording batt graph info. It will force you to manually enter a password… and that’s the point the battery graph will start recording again.

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ilreppans t1_j5qlz8r wrote

Reply to comment by samwood2809 in Charged at 12 but says i didn’t charge til 5am, what’s the green bar below 12? Why does it say I didn’t charge til 5 when i did, thankyou by samwood2809

Yes the green lines and faint green sections above them indicate plug-in periods. Only you doing something on the phone will restart it. If you left it alone till 11am then your graph would look like mine shutdown ~1am; no info 1-11am, then 100% when restarted at 11am.

If you restarted at 3am it might not even turn on (may still be zero batt), or might have been 10-30% and charging - IDK when it decided to start charging.

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ilreppans t1_j5qjzep wrote

Reply to comment by samwood2809 in Charged at 12 but says i didn’t charge til 5am, what’s the green bar below 12? Why does it say I didn’t charge til 5 when i did, thankyou by samwood2809

Yes mine shutdown while using

Technically you took the screenshot at 8:23 and the ‘last charged to 100%’ says ‘1hr ago’ so fully charged ~7:23, not 6am.

It should have been charging starting at 12am while you were FaceTiming, so who knows when it decided to start charging while it was shutdown 3,4,5 am?. Early version iOS gremlins, IDK. (Graph say plug-in at 12 not 1, IDK why the discrepancy, no offense, but I trust the graph more for that info).

Blue bar only shows when I started using it, ie that’s first point of restart and when the batt graphs started recording again, as I said “probably fully charged by ~4-5am” which means I’m guessing because the batt graphs don’t record info between shutdown and restart.

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ilreppans t1_j5q6w63 wrote

Reply to comment by samwood2809 in Charged at 12 but says i didn’t charge til 5am, what’s the green bar below 12? Why does it say I didn’t charge til 5 when i did, thankyou by samwood2809

Combo of FaceTime + wireless is what’s ‘possible’ for tripping heat sensor.

So HERE’s my phone that needed a 100-0-100 recalibration cycling because it was dying w/~18% left. You can see 3 small red bars on the left, each is 15mins, so it shows it shutdown at ~12:45am w/18% remaining, while I was using it in that 12-1am period for ~1/2hr as shown by the blue SOT bar below it. Then while shutdown and charging, no graph info recorded until I restarted using it at ~6am (but was probably fully charged by ~4-5am), as evidenced by the tiny blue SOT bar underneath it. Then on the far right, you can the last red bar disappear in the 11pm-12am range, but the blue SOT bar shows 15mins of use that hour, so it probably shutdown at 11:15pm.

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ilreppans t1_j5prozz wrote

Reply to comment by samwood2809 in Charged at 12 but says i didn’t charge til 5am, what’s the green bar below 12? Why does it say I didn’t charge til 5 when i did, thankyou by samwood2809

So FaceTime video conferencing, and wireless charging are both relatively high heat-generators, so it’s certainly possible, but the reports I’ve seen seem to say a notification will pop-up stating ‘charging suspended due to heat’, and you would notice that while FaceTiming. Could just be that random iOS glitch (are you on 16?) I mentioned earlier.

As to why it hasn’t happened before, well a random iOS glitch could be one answer, and another might be as batteries age, they slowly develop more internal resistance and therefore might be start triggering the heat tipping points.

I don’t know, personally my phone runs very cool with lite apps and slow chargers.

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ilreppans t1_j5oxpbi wrote

Reply to comment by samwood2809 in Charged at 12 but says i didn’t charge til 5am, what’s the green bar below 12? Why does it say I didn’t charge til 5 when i did, thankyou by samwood2809

That first thin charge bar looks like it was plugged in for ~20mins about 10:30-10:50pm and was charging properly as the battery level is rising. The second charge bar looks like it was plugged in from 12am, and for the whole hour, but was not charging as battery level declined till it shut off. You say ‘it went on for a couple mins at 12:43’ but the blue SOT bar directly below it shows the screen was on for the almost the full hour between 12:00 and 1:00am. Where you using it, or not, between 12-1am?

If you were NOT using it more that the above ‘couple mins’ in that 12-1am zone, then one common possible explanation is that you accidentally swiped the screen on and to the left when putting it down for the night. That will activate the camera, which doesn’t time out. The camera is also power-consuming and heat-generating enough so that the phone might suspend charging until later due to high heat (do you use a fast charger?) - it would leave a notification of that, but of course you won’t see it with accidental activation, and a dead batt shut-down would erase it.

Also seen quite a few folks with iOS16 bugs showing plugged-in, yet not charging, graphs… but those cases did not show active SOT blue bars below.

Highlight that 12-1am SOT blue bar to see what App was running for that hour.

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ilreppans t1_j5od7ss wrote

Reply to Charged at 12 but says i didn’t charge til 5am, what’s the green bar below 12? Why does it say I didn’t charge til 5 when i did, thankyou by samwood2809

It shows you plugged in at midnight, but charging was not activated and so the battery continued to deplete until it shut itself off. Looks like you using between 12-1am, did it shut-off while you where using it?

The gap between 1-5am with no info on the graph is typical display while charging after the phone has shut itself off. Your phone restarted at 5am when you started using it again, and so started recording battery graph info again.

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ilreppans t1_j1qeqmo wrote

Reply to For months my battery capacity remained at 85%, the month I’m out of warranty, capacity drops to 79% by Claymore6

Curious if and when you updated to iOS16, and if that might be the cause. Based on my batt health ‘sudden drop’ I think I see how it’s calculating (at least one measure), and it’s understandable, if not very accurate, but only because it never goes up.

Apple’s got a nice ploy to utilize most iPhones/batts as an AirTag crowdsource beacons though - gotta hand it to them for that.

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