jstnpotthoff

jstnpotthoff OP t1_je87q4h wrote

This was a relatively well thought out response. And the last two paragraphs make a compelling argument.

Two points:

  1. I didn't make any judgments on audiobooks. I only stated my opinion that they are different and it's actually quite confusing to me that it was interpreted by multiple people that I was somehow implying they're inferior when I explicitly stated that I wasn't judging people who listen to audiobooks.
  2. This isn't r/stories, and movies also tell the same stories, but nobody suggests that watching movies are the same as reading (although I can imagine there are discussions here about movie adaptations, and that I can see where there could be a place for that softens my opinion even more). The fact that there is an r/audiobooks for the discussion of specifically audiobooks is great. I wish there was a thing like that for....books...that are read with eyes. I would have assumed that should be r/books. (Which is also why I conceded that I would also accept a separate r/booksyoureadwithyoureyes.)

The reason you couldn't tell whether I've listened to audiobooks is because it didn't at all matter with regards to the point I was making. I have listened to a few audiobooks and enjoyed them. At least one of them I did go back and forth between reading and listening while on a road trip. A couple I have both listened to and read separately and it was just a completely different experience both times.

It's unfortunately become clear to me that when people say, "omg you have to read this book. It's awesome. I just finished listening to the audiobook." I have to immediately discard it because many books really are just a lot better in audiobook format. (Which makes how offended everyone got assuming I was somehow belittling audiobooks even more ridiculous.) I just wish it was clearer: "hey, I just listened to a great audiobook and I think everyone should give it a listen" would be a better way to put it. A great audiobook often does not mean a great book and vice versa.

I appreciate the discussion (though your response would have been better received without the first paragraph).

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jstnpotthoff OP t1_je824up wrote

That was exactly my point. There is an r/audiobooks. And there is not an r/booksyoureadwithyoureyes.
The discussion I was not interested in is "Are audiobooks better/worse than print or ebooks?" (Which is basically what the FAQ thread is).
I will admit that based on the responses I got, it was just going to turn into that argument, but I was actually interested in others' opinions. And I don't actually know of a subreddit that is better suited for such a discussion.

I'm dismayed you disagree.

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jstnpotthoff OP t1_je7urlz wrote

I never even implied that listening to an audiobook is in any way inferior to reading a book. I have listened to a few audiobooks and enjoyed them. But reading those same books was a different experience.

And your entire paragraph about the narration enhancing the certain books (the same way watching a play might) only goes to prove the point I was making.

Any joy you had that was squelched has far more to do with your projections than anything I actually said.

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jstnpotthoff t1_jdogcfg wrote

I don't have an explanation, but I experience the same thing. Some combination of impatience and anticipation. Are you, like me, basically never satisfied with what you're currently doing?

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