lavidadida

lavidadida t1_j30pgfc wrote

You are truly dumb as a rock. The fact that a study had not yet been conducted linking the covid vaccine to myocarditis in May 2021 does not mean that a link did not exist. It did exist then as it exists now - studies are an attempt to determine reality, they do not create facts. Objective reality exists, and scientific studies are attempts to discern that reality. Authorities lied, at minimum about the degree of certainty they could provide.

The FDA runs both approval processes. Feel free to throw out a bunch of irrelevant facts about those processes in response. Kind of like you throw out a complete non-sequitur about political parties and then link to a social science article with absolute garbage methodology. This gives me a good idea of what kind of nonsense you consider science lol. Study of covid mortality that doesn't account for age hahahahaha

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lavidadida t1_j30mnab wrote

Everyone should have known the variants were coming, because of the exact point I made above about the speed of mutations in coronaviruses.

And anyone paying attention knows public health authorities either didn't know what they were doing, lied, or both. You can keep covering for them, enjoy it.

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lavidadida t1_j2ziyas wrote

Yes - and in May 2021, you would have said "Stop saying vaccine myocarditis happens - studies show it does not and the CDC says there is no causal link." You would have been wrong, and complaining about how no one knows anything about science.

Re: therapeutics - You either can't read or are deliberately misinterpreting me. I also mentioned processed grains and the USDA food pyramid - you think I was comparing a vaccine to a loaf of bread? It's about the regulatory process and the politics of US health advice.

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lavidadida t1_j2z2alf wrote

When did I ever say anything about a vaccine attacking a virus? Or a timeline for vaccine injury? You're just throwing out unrelated facts as if they are a rebuttal to me since you don't want to admit - vaccine side effects are a real, but rare, thing AND the government agencies tasked with regulating the pharma industry have made huge mistakes before.

You chalk up the decisions of other governments to economics but assume the US government makes decisions based purely on science and in the interests of health - the drugs and the USDA food pyramid I listed are exactly the reasons to be suspicious of this.

Anyone who pays attention knows that the claims regarding efficacy and existence of side effects have shifted over time. But we are supposed to believe the current claims 100% and not ask any questions.

For example - May 2021 from CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices - “Careful investigation indicates [myocarditis] did not occur more frequently among young people who were vaccinated than among young people who were not vaccinated,” said Dr. William Schaffner, an ACIP member. “So there is no causal link to the vaccination.” https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/25/health/vaccine-myocarditis-kids/index.html

Today - https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html

A review of vaccine safety data in VAERS from December 2020–August 2021 found a small but increased risk of myocarditis after mRNA COVID-19 vaccines. Over 350 million mRNA vaccines were given during the study period and CDC scientists found that rates of myocarditis were highest following the second dose of an mRNA vaccine among males in the following age groups https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

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lavidadida t1_j2yjg2i wrote

BTW one of the things I actually learned when studying evolution in our educational system is that scientists have never been able to successfully produce effective vaccines for coronaviruses like the common cold, because they mutate too fast.

I initially thought that it looked like there have been breakthroughs in the last ten years. But turns out my science education was correct, and the sloppy propaganda cranked out by the pharma industry, the government agencies they own, and the media they pay off was wrong!

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lavidadida t1_j2yhkih wrote

There are tons of cases where the scientific authorities have said something was safe only to find it was not - especially those in the US government that work hand in hand with the companies they are supposed to be regulating. This process is political, not scientific, and I am not making any point about the biology or chemistry involved so you can stop hiding behind that.

Also - many countries don't recommend the vaccines for either those under 30, under 18, or recommend Pfizer over Moderna due to risks of side effects. Why do you think they do that?

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lavidadida t1_j2ybljz wrote

Yes, covid vaccines are safe and effective. Just like thalidomide, Aduhelm, and Vioxx. Don't forget OxyContin is not addictive and pain is the fifth vital sign. And remember to eat plenty of processed grains like in the base of the USDA food pyramid!

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