Don’t simplify things. There is a different between buying toys and textiles from China and medicines and computers. Early on it was win win. Now it’s dangerous. There is more on the line now. I suggest we disengage and I’ll bet you’d agree. Not sure why Iraq came up but cool.

You dodged my question. We gave weapons to isi to fight the evil empire. Not because they were liberal reformers. Real life has risks. The us bombed a medical factory in Sudan. Why??? Because the goal was just. In the real world there are unknowns and mistakes. It’s nice and easy to sit back and judge with hindsight. Without exception the dictators the us killed were more repressive than the us. It’s funny to hear you say the us stopped saddam. Tried to stop Castro. Killed gaddaffi and but we’re somehow worse? Do you know anything about how repressive the north Vietnamese were?

Do you see any positives on the other side of the scale? Freeing Eastern Europe from totalitarianism? Saving Kuwait from extirpation? Protecting Ukraine and Taiwanese independence? Providing a middle class living to 100s of millions? Eliminating more dictators than the rest of the world combined? Just want to know what you think about the positive role the US has played in promoting human rights. There are a lot of girls in Afghanistan who remember what being in a classroom was like

Interesting point. So the US pays for all the r and d and then Chinese companies steal it? Do you think that is a net positive given the huge scale of the theft?

I think we mostly agree. But the costs of losing to Chinese companies will hurt us citizens too. A windmill maker shut down bc is tech was stolen by China. (Simplistically). That is foreboding.

I think you are mostly right. However the consequence of this won’t hurt just corporations. People work at those jobs and have their stock. I think you are wrong about human rights though. You don’t have to travel to much to see that the US has much greater respect for human rights that most other countries.

Good. You’re gonna need a job once those corporations close because their ip was stolen to make cheap Chinese copies.