lorZzeus

lorZzeus t1_jds8z8a wrote

I have Apple TV+ for two weeks now, but can't tell yet if the subtitles in my language are that bad or not. I'll have to watch more episodes and more TV shows to check that out.

We share the "broken" subtitles issue, though, and we're not alone. A quick search on the internet will prove it and usually it's because the user is not using an Apple product to watch their streaming service. That's right, Apple TV+ streaming service has issues in non-Apple products!

I can only watch Apple TV+ in a computer's browser, because their Windows app is only available for Windows 11 users and I'm a Windows 10 user. Their android app doesn't appear in my android box play store, nor in my smartphone's play store. So, besides the subtitles issue, where sometimes it shows up and stays for 0.1 seconds, I can't change the subtitles' font size, font, background, etc. In some browsers I couldn't even choose the subtitle and the audio for the video, but I found out it was related to the browsers' ad blocker. Another thing is they limit their content a lot in their browser version. I basically just have access to their original TV shows and movies, so it seems like I'm using a trial version of the app where I don't have access to their full catalogue and can't customize my experience by changing a simple thing like a subtitle's font size. Fortunately there are browser extensions that let me costumize the subtitles, or else I would have quit Apple TV+ already.

In conclusion, I feel like I'm a third rate client for Apple, because I don't have any Apple product to use their streaming service and I'm seriously considering to watch their contents in other ways.

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lorZzeus t1_jds42p8 wrote

Reply to comment by cmrdgkr in Apple TV's subtitles are awful. by cmrdgkr

Not sure why you're being downvoted here. It is Apple TV+'s fault, not the user or their hardware. Also, telling someone to spend a lot of money on something just to eventually solve this problem is rude, in my opinion.

As someone who has the same problem as you, I have a suggestion that could help or not: try watching with the closed captions subtitles instead of the standard subtitles. I noticed these subtitles aren't as bugged and "vanish" fewer times.

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lorZzeus t1_j6jptvc wrote

It could be worse, though. Crunchyroll, for example, is a streaming service for anime and they only have like subs for 5 languages. Their subs aren't very good either, so I guess it's a general problem in these streaming services that prioritize cheap subs just because they're quickly made and then they don't have to worry about them anymore.

It's dumb, given the fact these companies are investing millions and millions of money in making/acquiring new content for their services and then they think a sub made in a rush by someone who's being underpaid will be good enough.

On the other side, subtitles made by fans are usually good and they don't receive a single penny for it.

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lorZzeus t1_j6h8vdj wrote

Yes, they are bad, which is not surprising, because Netflix gives like 15 days for a sole translator to sub and translate one full season. They also have instructions about the maximum number of words/characters (I don't remember which) a translator can use in a single line. Besides they don't pay very well for this kind of work...

I have no idea about the dubs, though. I know they use dubs from DVDs and TV channels in some shows/movies, so those dubs should be more faithful to the original content. I have no idea if they have used subs from DVDs in shows/movies, though.

So yeah, basically Netflix doesn't care much about the quality in their subs, they just want something done quickly. I wish they gave translators more time to make a good job and also less limitations in how they should do their work. One thing they could do is to let the translator rework and improve the subs right after they completed their 15 days assignment, giving them more time, which wouldn't matter much to Netflix since they already have the v1 subs for their content. A v2 sub would be quite welcome, Netflix.

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lorZzeus t1_j6als9k wrote

This post should be upvoted, as I think writers are way more important for a show to be good than any famous and awarded actor.

The writers I consider the best are:
- Jonathan Nolan (Person of Interest, Westworld);
- Joss Whedon (Buffy, Angel, Firefly, Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.);
- Michael Schur (Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Parks and Recreation, The Office (US), The Good Place);
- Damon Lindelof (Lost, The Leftovers, Watchmen);
- David Lynch (Twin Peaks);
- Ronald D. Moore (Battlestar Galactica (2004), For All Mankind, Roswell, Star Trek: DS9);
- Vince Gilligan (Better Call Saul, Breaking Bad, The X-Files);
- David Simon (The Wire, Treme, The Deuce, We Own This City);
- Bryan Fuller (Heroes, Hannibal, Pushing Daisies);
- Russel T. Davies (Doctor Who, Torchwood, It's a Sin);
- Noah Hawley (Fargo, Legion);
- Phoebe Waller-Bridge (Fleabag, Killing Eve);
- Steven Moffat (Doctor Who, Sherlock).

Sorry for the long list.

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