Did you lose track of the conversation? We weren't discussing the headline. We were discussing your notion that operating an EV has 5X the total cost of an ICE vehicle.

>> please quote me the prices of these cars >> thats the first multiplier - you have to buy them before you can use them

Sticker prices of EVs are typically higher, but total lifetime cost is lower due to electricty/mile being cheaper than gas/mile as well as reduced maintenance costs. Source1 Source2 Source3

>> and then have the assumed shortages of the materials used for a vastly increased number being built - something you might try to consider the impact of.

This doesn't make any sense. If I'm choosing between buying an EV or a gas car, both will need materials, and it doesn't change the number of cars being built if I'm choosing between one or the other. Choosing the EV isn't going to cause a shortage of materials vs choosing a gas car, other than the materials being different for some components. Either way, it's irrelevant to whether it costs more to own an EV.

>> likewise the manufacture will need to be clean too, and recycling as well.

Why? Does the gas car have have clean manufacturing? No. And this is still irrelevant to ownership cost.

>> And please address the ever present issue of where the power comes from for these autos - explain how all that electricity will be generated without fossil fuels being involved.

Like I said--you can power them with the sun. No fossil fuels needed. I have solar panels on my roof and only pay the energy company a connection fee.

Even the military is working on electrification.

What a load of bullshit. Anyone with solar panels and an electric car knows it's a fraction of the cost to operate.