monkeylogic42

monkeylogic42 t1_j2t0tr3 wrote

I do not consult Amazon reviews at all, theyre not verifiable. Realistic optimism isn't a thing. It's just optimism. It's often used like faith, as belief that the best outcome will prevail without evidence. Demonstrate a reason for optimism and we can talk, but declaring now the time for optimism after optimism is what got us to this point is silly. Like I said in the beginning, general optimism is weaponizing you against your own self interest.

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monkeylogic42 t1_j2sx9za wrote

Nice, the strawman I predicted you would pull from your back pocket!

How about just admitting that optimism isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread and an acknowledgement that it's not the best way to go about dealing in the world? That's all you have to do, but nah, you look at where all the ambitious optimism has us and decide we need more! Lol....

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monkeylogic42 t1_j2sux8h wrote

Lol. I wasnt there for any major historical decisions where the pessimist in the room talked sense into the rest. I can point to numerous examples where optimism has failed us greatly though, we have great records on that. You demanding examples is just a demonstration that you have no argument really for your optimism, and instead would like to strawman something away from your poor philosophical stance. Especially your errant declaration that "it's time for more unbridled optimism!". Super shortsighted and childish.

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monkeylogic42 t1_j2ss423 wrote

Doesn't matter what headspace, pessimism is necessary for seeing things as they are. The unbridled optimism peddled by capitalists to continue plundering resources has already doomed the world. Optimists are useful tools against science and progress more than benefits to society.

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monkeylogic42 t1_j2sqpya wrote

We've had toxic optimism taking us for a ride our entire species existence. We've known global warming due to human activity was a thing since the early 1900s, and we still have 'optimists' trying to run around and say everything is fine! We're not overpopulated and technology will save us! As we're ass deep in the anthropocene extinction. I don't know of a current metric that merits optimism.

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