monosodiumg64
monosodiumg64 t1_ir95bb6 wrote
Reply to comment by Hipser in Global Agricultural Land Use v. Agricultural Production [OC] by rosetechnology
That's Greenpeace. Was a fan in the anti-whaling days but they were real environmentalists in those days. Now they are a propaganda org pushing ideological positions instead of the environment. They lie and distort freely to support their causes. Not a credible source in anything.
Tip: look not just for sources aligned with your beliefs, look also for sources with different biases.
monosodiumg64 t1_ir50762 wrote
Reply to comment by Hipser in Global Agricultural Land Use v. Agricultural Production [OC] by rosetechnology
>the real burning issue is using most of that land for animal feed. it takes vast amounts of water and uses up 100x the weight of crops per final meat food..
Not sure any of those points are correct.
On the water point, most sources that claim animal feed takes up huge amounts of water are including rainwater, which is not "used" in the sense of "was available for other uses but no longer is because it was used up in growing crops". In fact almost all that rainwater runs off or evaporates, which it would have done whatever that land was use for.
>100x
Source? I ask because the range I usually see is 4x to 10x.
monosodiumg64 t1_ir2k5wk wrote
Reply to comment by Sininenn in Global Agricultural Land Use v. Agricultural Production [OC] by rosetechnology
Bottom left corner says constant 2022 prices.
Older readers will know how much more of household income used to be spent on food. Food has become much cheaper in relation to incomes.
monosodiumg64 t1_ir11kzn wrote
Reply to comment by Sininenn in Global Agricultural Land Use v. Agricultural Production [OC] by rosetechnology
Where do you get the idea that this is not an efficiency increase?
monosodiumg64 t1_ir11bs1 wrote
Reply to comment by FiveFingerDisco in Global Agricultural Land Use v. Agricultural Production [OC] by rosetechnology
The calorie would depend much more o!what's being farmed. Also not all ag output is for food, e.g. cotton and also corn and sugar for ethanol.
monosodiumg64 t1_iu375pe wrote
Reply to comment by shillyshally in Beyond Catastrophe: A New Climate Reality Is Coming Into View by lightscameracrafty
None of those events are unequivocally attributable to anthropogenic climate change. Sea levels are rising now at half the speed they were rising for several thousand years just before the Egyptians started building pyramids. No cities got flooded then, that we know of, because as far as we know there were no cities. In the places were sea levels are rising fastest, most of the rise is due to land sinking or subsidence, not anthropogenic climate change
The American West has a long history of long severe droughts. Droughts were wiping out local civilisations centuries before modern co2 rise. How can one possibly attribute observed recent drying of any of these water features to climate when all of them have been massively affected by modern changes in water use, land use and engineering?
Find more plausible examples.