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nac_nabuc t1_jbccv85 wrote

Reply to comment by AverageAustralian111 in [OC] Let’s look at some train data 🚂, data from US Federal Railroad Administration by nymaps

If the derailments are due to infrastructure problems like signaling and track maintenance it probably doesn't make sense to try and achieve higher standards of safety for the US since their infrastructure costs are so ridiculously high. Wouldn't be surprised if you'd see budgets that are closer to Spanish HIGh speed construction costs for just some signaling and small track upgrades.

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nac_nabuc t1_jbcb288 wrote

Reply to comment by Urmambulant in [OC] Let’s look at some train data 🚂, data from US Federal Railroad Administration by nymaps

Just to give you a scale of how wrong your probably scale was: Spain had 8 derailments in 2021. Assuming every EU country has twice as many, including countries with people, Europe would have only a bit more than 400 per year while having 1/3 more population (22 of those countries have less population than Spain).

https://www.seguridadferroviaria.es/recursos_aesf/ias_nsa_espana_2022.pdf (p. 28, Spanish PDF)

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nac_nabuc t1_jbcasiu wrote

Reply to comment by Urmambulant in [OC] Let’s look at some train data 🚂, data from US Federal Railroad Administration by nymaps

Just to give you a scale of how wrong your probably scale was: Spain had 8 derailments in 2021. Assuming every EU country has twice as many, including countries with people, Europe would have only a bit more than 400 per year while having 1/3 more population (22 of those countries have less population than Spain).

https://t.co/UN8avHovQz (pdf in Spanish sadly, p.28).

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nac_nabuc t1_jbc0miy wrote

Reply to comment by AverageAustralian111 in [OC] Let’s look at some train data 🚂, data from US Federal Railroad Administration by nymaps

Are you sure you are comparing the same thing?

>Significant accident Any accident involving at least one rail vehicle in motion, resulting in at least one killed or seriously injured person, or in significant damage to stock, track, other installations or environment, or extensive disruptions to traffic. Accidents in workshops, warehouses and depots are excluded.

Says nothing about derailment. It's older data, but 2015 Europe has 0 deaths and 0 serious injuries from derailments and since your graph shows fatalities, my conclusion is that significant accident isnt limited to derailments.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?oldid=326173

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