neotericnewt

neotericnewt t1_jega9mc wrote

I don't think I am minimizing the situation, I think I'm treating the situation as it is. Some kids put a plastic bucket over someone's head. That's it. That's all they did. That's what people are frothing at the mouth about.

I mean seriously, what do you actually think should happen? You think the kids should get charged with assault? Like the other commenters you think they should get beat to a pulp and sent to the hospital?

I think an apology to the woman is all that should happen. They shouldn't have done it, but it was largely a harmless joke. They didn't know that the person had an anxiety disorder and would freak out over it. It was a dumb thing to do, but hey, kids do stupid shit all the time, and this was a pretty minor thing all in all.

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neotericnewt t1_jefsnmu wrote

I'm not implying it's acceptable, what I'm saying is that people are way overreacting. I've had multiple comments from multiple people saying if this had happened to them they'd have beat the kids till they needed to be hospitalized, for example. People are frothing at the mouth over some dumb shit kids did.

They're fucking kids. They did a dumb prank they shouldn't have done. Jesus they put a plastic bucket over someone's head, she'll live. I think the kids should come forward and apologize to the woman and that's probably enough.

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neotericnewt t1_jeez8d3 wrote

...right, this is exactly what I said above. The only person saying she suffered from an "acute heart issue" is the woman in question. Considering she was totally fine by the time she got to the hospital and an "acute heart issue" isn't a thing, it sounds like she just freaked out and wasn't actually harmed in any way.

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neotericnewt t1_jeey0d8 wrote

The doctor isn't the person that said she suffered an acute heart issue, she is. She's the only person saying she suffered an acute heart issue. An "acute heart issue" isn't a medical term. It isn't a thing.

She freaked out about a bucket on her head and was totally fine before she even got to the hospital.

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neotericnewt t1_jeexly7 wrote

>What people mean when they say they'll fight, they mean because of ~unknown danger~

Sure, and what you're talking about is a total overreaction to the situation. Sorry but if your first thought is that you're going to die when you take that bucket off your head and see some kids laughing, you're the one with some serious issues. That's not a reasonable conclusion to draw and wouldn't justify you beating children until they needed to be hospitalized.

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neotericnewt t1_jed9jr4 wrote

>My issue is that I refuse to allow some little asshat to harm me or my child.

A plastic bucket on your head doesn't harm you or your child.

>Bucket lands on my head and I can’t be held responsible for who gets hurt.

You would be. If you beat a child to the point they needed to go to the hospital because they put a bucket on your head you'd likely be charged with assault. Self defense doesn't fly when you act like a total nut job and brutally assault someone completely needlessly.

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neotericnewt t1_jed9dgr wrote

Right, the woman in question, Clay-Monaghan, says she suffered an acute heart issue... which isn't a thing. There's heart attacks, tachycardia, SVT, there are plenty of things the hospital would have told her. "An acute heart issue" isn't one of them.

She was fine when she got to the hospital. She freaked out.

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neotericnewt t1_jed92hq wrote

>It literally in the article said she suffered an acute heart issue

It says in the article that she says the hospital said she had an "acute heart issue", which isn't a thing. She didn't have a heart attack, they would have said that. She was stable when she got to the hospital.

She just freaked out about a bucket on her head. Again, it was a fucking plastic bucket on her head. I'm not saying it's okay to do shit like that, but I am saying that people are frothing at the mouth over a dumb stunt committed by children.

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neotericnewt t1_jed428i wrote

The hospital didn't say she suffered an acute heart issue, the woman in question is the one who said that. I agree, that's not something a hospital would say.

>And if I thought they were going to hurt me or my child, I don’t care if they are only 14, one of them would likely end up in the hospital.

If you'd beat children until they needed to be hospitalized because they put a plastic bucket on your head for laughs, I'm sorry, but you're the one with the issue.

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neotericnewt t1_jeczmwz wrote

I'm not justifying their actions. The kids should come forward and they should apologize to the woman. And... that should probably be about it. The police are saying they're investigating it as an assault, which is absurd.

Do you genuinely believe that some high-school kids should face jail time or criminal charges because they put a bucket on someone's head?

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neotericnewt t1_jeczdt8 wrote

>She couldn’t just push it off her head in a hurry

It's a plastic bucket, you can just pick it up.

I'm not saying it's acceptable to prank strangers like this, I find it pretty obnoxious, but we're talking about kids. They weren't trying to hurt anybody, they just did a dumb joke. I don't think the pitchforks are necessary. Kids are stupid.

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neotericnewt t1_jec6e77 wrote

>She had a heart attack

No she didn't, she panicked and passed out. She was stable when she was taken to the hospital. That's why it's being called an "acute heart issue" and not a heart attack.

Like I said, I agree that people shouldn't be trying to make tiktok videos out of scaring strangers, but this is just kids being dumb. Fourteen year olds often do dumb things, and putting a bucket on a strangers head is a pretty mild example of "dumb things kid do".

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neotericnewt t1_jckpt7e wrote

Contempt of court isn't really about rudeness as much as allowing the court process to continue. If you're having outbursts in court and you're not listening when the judge says to move on its interfering with the court process. Contempt of court is when you disobey orders from the court or otherwise interfere or obstruct the court process.

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neotericnewt t1_iyinuoa wrote

>Like really? As if we cracked all the secrets of the universe.

We don't need to crack all the secrets of the universe, just some, and then we build from there. As far as we can tell FTL travel is impossible. For that to be incorrect would mean some of our most well tested and supported theories are also totally incorrect.

That's just not at all likely, because yeah, they're really well supported. FTL travel just doesn't make sense with the rules of the universe as they are.

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neotericnewt t1_ixnwb7q wrote

Likely based on surveys. This is pretty common for these sort of things. Depression questionnaires can help track severity of depression over time for example. Often in treatment people might not even notice how much progress they've actually made, it's great to take out past questionnaires and show them the actual numbers and tends to give a real boost of positivity afterwards.

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neotericnewt t1_iuysntx wrote

You don't try to heat an entire home, usually just a small room where you'll be spending a significant amount of time. I did something like this when I lost power for a few days in below freezing temps. A few candles going got the room to a comfortable temperature, it was I'd say a pretty average bedroom size, on the smaller side but not abnormally small.

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neotericnewt t1_iuysaav wrote

You can get candles for ridiculously cheap. If you could actually save $20 a month that'd be a pretty solid option. Of course, there's the increased fire risk of using candles, but that can be mostly mitigated by not being a dumbass.

I'm doubtful anyone's really saving $20 a month doing this, but maybe I'm wrong. I once lost power for a few days during the winter, in a small room just having a few candles going got it to a pretty comfortable temperature when it was below freezing. Only issue was all the soot, got a bit of a scratchy throat afterwards.

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