in the sense it's literally the same as the buds that comes with your phone, random Chinese earphones.

my issue with my waners was that the emphasis on vocals isn't as strong as I would like. it's overpowered by the instruments and bass. they play instruments EXTREMELY WELL but the vocals just isn't as present as I'd like. I've gotten used to it for the most part.

main reason I don't try the quarks because they just seem like a generic earphone with good tuning? also remember how I got my waners for $14? in my country the price difference isn't significant enough for me to consider it

I actually don't like my waners. which is why I made this post in the first place since I wanted to get a new iem. not saying it's bad just didn't like it. being cheap is the entire point of chus and other $20 iems. by trying to feel premium you're going to have to sacrifice a lot of things such as utility and longevity.

you buy iems for the sound not the premium feel, I doubt you're gonna notice the metal build while you're wearing it. if you're gonna appreciate an iem appreciate the fact it plays audio well.

my point still stands that lan has no real identity. turning is what defines an iem at the end and lan just isn't all that special to be a real product. revising the chus still makes more sense than an entirely different product that does the same thing.

the fact that spring tips themselves are priced at $13 says otherwise. not sure what you're trying to say by they are worth pennies to moondrop. proprietary tips that comes with majority iems as a neccesity comes to mind as a replacement tip.

I'm complaining about how the lan is literally moondrop chu with a detachable cable. some people complained about how "shouty" the chus are and this is what the lan doesn't have but other than that there's is literally nothing that separates it from the chus besides a detachable cable.

I definitely overlooked the metal build's contribution to price but the metal build is absolutely insignificant to the audio quality and only gives a premium feel at best. at $20 asking for a premium feel is a bit stupid.

my point is, the nuances between the LAN and Chus are too insignificant, lan fixes the issue chus had by being more expensive but other iems have proved it can still stay at the same price by knowing where to hold back on budget. my tangzu waners which has a detachable cable, great turning and build quality that isn't garbage is only $14

did you not read my post at all. from my knowledge people seem to agree a lot of the value are from the spring tips, removing them definitely gives them a larger budget. if other iems can have great tuning as well as a detachable cable I don't see why the chus in particular can't. I mean they're the one who started this $20 iem deal