olanmills

olanmills t1_jdaqlnf wrote

That would work, but for it to work across different devices/and or carriers, they would all need to work together to implement it in a mutually intelligible way. If it wasn't part of the RCS standard, then it would basically be different device makers and/or carriers having side agreements with each other. So they use their own encryption scheme on either end with RCS in the middle. With situations like that it becomes too easy for the side agreements to not be the same everywhere amongst all parties, which ends up being confusing for consumers and possibly broken. It would lead to things like, oh these features work between these carriers, but not these, or if you message your cousin in Germany, you have to remember to use a different setting than when you message your friend in California, etc. It would be better if end-to-end encryption was part of the RCS standard, which I guess means we already need an RCS 2.0

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olanmills OP t1_jdahjlq wrote

This only works for me if there is no caller ID name associated with the call. In this case, the number appears much larger, in the same location that you see "WIRELESS CALLER" in the screenshot. In the case of my screenshot, I can long press on "WIRELESS CALLER" and copy that text, but I can't copy the phone number. Are you seeing the same thing?

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olanmills t1_jdagu39 wrote

Yes, but SMS is antiquated. iMessage, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, and other similar services offer some important features that are very beneficial. The first among them is that that are end-to-end encrypted. This means that no one can see the contents of the messages except the senders and recipients. For example, if Facebook wanted to see the messages, even if someone was compelling them to, like the government, or the mob kidnaps an employee or whatever, it's simply not possible.

Also, a proper digital messaging service can handle messages as robust packages of information, with a format that is extensible, not just a raw message. It would be able to better handle group messaging scenarios and threads. You can get feedback if messages have been delivered. It would be able to better handle network interruptions. It allows for fun stuff like reactions and stuff. They could build better ways to block and report spam and harmful content.

SMS wasn't designed to handle these sorts of things

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olanmills OP t1_jdaf0it wrote

The phone number in the screenshot is some lowlife spam company.

It seems like if a call comes with some form of called ID (in this case, "WIRELESS CALLER"), then you can copy that name, but you can't select and copy the phone number. Am I missing an easy way to do this? The only way I see how is that I first have to save it as a contact and then open the contact details and copy the number from there

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