lol weirdos are downvoting all these comments. I think the defensiveness from people shows it's truer than people think

I think you're just biased from an equally opposing perspective. You're ignoring that the basis for the vacate was grounded on prosecutorial misconduct that the court agreed with. Can't pretend to care about systemic issues then ignore that. That's disingenuous.

To be fair I wouldn't put it beyond the show to pepper hints that not everyone gets on first watch, as well as some false hints since in the end we're not supposed to know who dies. The first season gave us multiple moments where we almost thought one of the local Hawaiians would die, for example.

I don't know why you call him Vagina Boy but it fits perfectly

> Plop

holy shit you just blew my mind. testament to his acting that he can play a Cameron-like asshole and manbaby so convincingly

The quirky gay Italian men. It's gays upon gays upon gays

That's exactly why I think it's not his nephew. I think they're scammers and have something going on.

Greg may be involved too.

Yup, he won the Little Buff Boys competition

Yeah they're all literally spin-offs...

The Old Man...

I've seen that cover show up from time to time on streaming services, it's GOTTA be amazing to watch lol

Hadn't even thought of this, but since so much of this season is about secrets, now you have amped me up and made me even more interested...

What sticks out to me is great writing, and complex characters. Easy to describe but hard to pull off in a finished product (most shows for many reason become cookie cutter despite writers and creators who I'm sure can do much better).

Of course there's more. The camera work is amazing, the score it perfect, the actors are all fantastic, and the direction and pacing is great. I remember watching one of the recaps of White Lotus before an episode this season and it had this goofy sitcom-y soundtrack that completely undercut the drama of the moments that it was summarizing, and I couldn't help thinking that this show in any other hands would basically just be a quirky Netflix soap opera without any of the dramatic tension.

Exactly. See: Game of Thrones, and The Walking Dead, each of which two very different ways but in both cases it was because of pressures to keep it going. GOT went off the railes while TWD became a slow, boring, painful drama to keep the series going as long as possible.

For a less obnoxious challenge show I like Blown Away, about glass artists. Still has some of the faults of this (admittedly) limited genre but it's cool seeing artists doing their thing. I love mixology but I agree that the "attitude" this show gives off is just so bad and so common on network/mainstream TV

You're on a television subreddit where people regularly post about new and current shows, and you aren't aware that TV shows have marketing campaigns and press that market them?