I will do it for you. The research on the 3 shots that I received is right here(CDC on Pfizer), the link can't be better. To sum it up, vaccines did save lives of 0.0029% of people that received the shots. About 3000 in 1 million at a peak of infections(effective use of vaccinations within 3 months).

And the side effect is myocarditis (weakening of the heart walls) which caused around 0,00036% to die in the control test (same report). About 380 in a million.

The point is that I don't want to repeat is these unknown factors (unknown efficacy, effects and adverse effects).

My question is what damage it could've caused to heart walls long term. No one can answer that, as we're yet to get an answer on that if someone dares to question.

It's not entirely appealing to take something that does a little bit of damage in a million of people and actually save 3000 (minus 380 and others in adverse reactions, minus ineffective efficacy due to not receiving new jabs about and few other variables).

All I want is not to be forced to be a lab rat, forcibly "voluntarily" agree that I take responsibility for any side-effects, and I "now allow it to be administered". I felt like taking those jabs in a lawyers office. They never did that with a flu shot. I don't want that to repeat. And all that was required by law after I suffered through multiple strains and gained own immunity to them.

Make the medicine, make sure it's up to par first. Covid is coming around, and I don't see people running to jab themselves, because this exact thought is at the back of people's minds that it prevents by drawing on your immune system, rather than strengthening it.

Rather take what doctors take, like RX550 (potent immunity booster) that knocks the socks off compared to covid itself and work twice as long. Also alternative medicine was excluded from consideration at a time.. how is that for freedom of choice.

Vaccines are great for chickenpox, but flu is not curable due to seasonal mutations with it, unlike other viruses that your body has to learn once. Even those have side-effects, but I fair trade to become immune to known diseases.

The article in the post, it's a baseline shot, not a cure. I hope this research brings better breakthroughs down the road and keeps the facts straight without toy toying with lives globally.

So to get back to your comment, it's more of ethics that I want to see brushed up and transparency that will make me want to take it rather than read another article on new findings after I had 3 of them. It does make me question about it's benefits or drawbacks.

TLDR: when it's ready in 2 years time, test, then announce the miracle flu shot. Too early for population now to think about.

Thank you. I find that there're different states of mind and perception when it comes to discussions. Comments are more 1 dimensional that doesn't translate well as knowledge, extension of the subject, or just common talk.

I'm wrong for challenging their hope, not that I'm of wrong opinion of realistic expectations on the subject. Even welcoming counter arguments to see where I'm wrong, but I get downvotes due to short circuits lol

Quality of information over karma points any day. Make your argument at least.

Ooof, brace for my rant lol.. they.. you.. thing..

It's sad how people blindly tag along with headlines with a promise of magic for the sake of their opinion on a social platform without having adequate and educated argument... and don't understand what the article says.

Nevermind considering that articles such as this are made for fast investment, rather than informing.

Is it already too much to ask just for testing and present evidence of it working as well as actual effects before jabbing?

I know that antigen flu shots work since they're safe version of flues themselves. Even the cancer cells in the shot don't bother me since it's been proven safe. mRNA on the other hand is literally telling your body what the response should be over a period of months.

The tradeoff of medicine is the strain/stress on your immune system to work on more important thing. It will be harder for your body to maintain itself leading to faster biological aging of some of the organs.

Prof John Oxford is looking at it as an achievement or progress in medicine. What I don't want it to be is another "everybody is considered stupid, and gets an express made jab to keep a job".

He is one of the best to tell us what to expect, but he will not be able to tell me using his mouth that there will be no side-effects such as physical exhaustion. If he would say it, I would believe him without a question.

I want people to be responsible for what they promise when the time comes for another global pandemic management. Otherwise they turn access to government decisions for profit globally. It's a scale that can be misused and I see right through these articles that are written for simpleminded approach.

I'm more of evidence of results guy, not let's argue who's opinion is right.

Feel free to contribute with counter argument, but don't assign your view of me without even trying to understand what I'm saying.

Edit: Looks like there's no disagreement, but general dislike of the idea to demand to be better informed of the "magic" vaccine for uncurable virus. Redditors are so dense when it comes to a challenge in ideas..

I'm all for vaccines that work. As a kid I got probably 20-30 of them. They just mustn't shove it as a requirement when it's untested long term to be as effective as they say, and proven to not be pseudo science invented by multiple companies at the same time.

Even though they tried to do something, I think the vaccines for pandemic were rolled out just because of deadlines and contracts. At the end efficiency didn't matter, it had to be rolled out to fulfill the contracts initiated by egos of politicians. I don't want to see that repeat and begin the debate of if it's necessary to lose jobs over uncurable sickness.

Yes, for those that dont want to deal with it, of course. But I like to learn from my mistakes, gain experience and do better than learn to give up on small challenges.

Exactly my point bruv. Many people get mental issues from finances or loneliness. Worth it or not, it will eat away the mental health until faced.

Running away from problems is worse.