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orincoro t1_jeg2ncr wrote
Reply to Fahrenheit 451 Co-opted? by ViolinistFamiliar187
F-451 is not specifically anti-fascist (though it does take place in an authoritarian future world) and probably a lot like 1984, it is often cited by far right propagandists who would co-opt the message of anti-censorship and make the case that the post-literary future it presents is the product of some derivation of Marxism. There may be some further ammunition in the book for this take, given that the “firemen” of this future are, according to the legend they subscribe to, eliminating all non-mainstream culture as a means of explicitly of ending class-conflict. This may lead some unimaginative people to conclude that it’s really a tract against socialism, which it isn’t.
However, it’s worth noting that the form of censorship against which the book was implicitly reacting was McCarthyism, and it bears further noting that while the book is of course about censorship on its face, its more animating motivation is probably as a criticism of all mass consumer culture, particularly television and advertising.
I imagine somebody is co-opting it for the same reason anything is co-opted in this way. Young people are told this is an important book.
Fuck neo Nazis indeed sir.
orincoro t1_jaa3o1s wrote
Reply to comment by Gamma_31 in Revealed: Europe's Oldest Humans had Surprisingly Frequent Intermingling with Neanderthals by OptimalCrew7992
Moreover it is really not strongly supported that humans actually outcompeted Neanderthals in any particular way. They could been bred out, died of disease, or many other outcomes. The argument that we necessity survived because we were better on some way is not very scientific. Weaker and less resilient species win out all the time for obscure reasons.
orincoro t1_ja3o9vs wrote
Reply to comment by TheSensibleTurk in How far off are we from not needing to learn languages? by AmericanMonsterCock
And let’s be real for a minute. If the government has the opportunity to rig such a system, it will.
orincoro t1_ja3nlwp wrote
Your brain will never not benefit from learning languages. There’s also utterly no way to understand the success or failure of a given translation matrix without people who understand both.
Finally, you will never achieve high level communication with people who don’t understand any of the same languages as you, so this seems like a silly line of inquiry.
orincoro t1_j7zl8hh wrote
Reply to comment by lol_roast_me in Under-screen Face ID patent describes what could be a next-generation Dynamic Island. by SUPRVLLAN
FaceID was fucking horrible during COVID.
orincoro t1_j7fs7fw wrote
Reply to comment by gundam1945 in What happens when the AI machine decides what you should know? by RamaSchneider
I’ve seen the argument that truly creative cognition requires the biological executive function. Something has to instantiate the desire to create, and in our minds, this is driven ultimately by the need for survival and reproduction (and of course, the shadow function of a need for death).
orincoro t1_j7fs06k wrote
Reply to comment by StackOwOFlow in What happens when the AI machine decides what you should know? by RamaSchneider
Not really. We don’t actually know exactly how cognition works, so it would be a little overzealous to analogize it with a machine. Whenever we do this, we tend to over-rely on such analogies. 20 years ago technologists were talking about how our brain has “apps.” 20 years before that, our brains had “ram.” And so forth. We analogize to machines because we can understand machines, but this does not our brain a machine make.
orincoro t1_j7fr90k wrote
Reply to comment by hesiod2 in What happens when the AI machine decides what you should know? by RamaSchneider
Those settings are also driven by machine learning. You’re thinking in a linear way, but neural networks don’t work like that.
All of this is nonsensical. Altman has to define what is “neutral.” But this is an orthogonal value; not an objective characteristic. What’s neutral to you isn’t neutral to me. The bloody minded technocracy of these companies is utterly fucking maddening. They’ll replace human driven decision making and the definition of mortality and ethics themselves in the hands of programs. And believe me: the people who will benefit are the people who own and control those programs.
orincoro t1_j7fqwud wrote
Reply to comment by Sirisian in What happens when the AI machine decides what you should know? by RamaSchneider
Absolutely disagree. The purpose of neural networks is to establish connections in an organic way. You can use certain heuristics to get the machine to form connections in certain ways, but your ability to guide its learning is limited by the fact that you will never know in detail what all the nodes are for or how they actually work. There is no possibility of analyzing a neural network in the sense that we can understand machine code.
This is why neural networks can degrade if not trained properly. Companies like Google and Facebook don’t have as much control over their systems as they would like you to think.
orincoro t1_j7fqn3q wrote
It already does decide what you know. ChatGPT is just an overt and public facing form of the same technology that’s been determining your information diet for years. Believe me, I write for some popular YouTube channels: not only does AI tell us what to write about, it gives us exact critical feedback on making the text more digestible. It’s really quite a seedy business in my opinion.
orincoro t1_j6tvzyi wrote
Reply to comment by throwaway4abetterday in How will AI powered deep fakes and voice mods affect the future of the criminal justice system? by originmsd
lol. The UK’s issues are EXTREMELY DIFFFERENT from those of the US.
orincoro t1_j5smbpc wrote
Reply to comment by False_Grit in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur
You have an inherent faith in people and systems that doesn’t feel earned.
orincoro t1_j5ocrmk wrote
Reply to comment by get-azureaduser in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur
Ah, so the people who stood directly the lose power because of the press said it was evil? Color me fucking shocked. Is that the best you’ve got?
This invention is not empowering common people like the press did. It empowers the already powerful to accumulate yet more power. Show me how it’s anything else.
orincoro t1_j5kb6w2 wrote
Reply to comment by kkpappas in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur
Yes, sociopaths are often first to market. There’s a reason for that.
orincoro t1_j5kavus wrote
Reply to comment by get-azureaduser in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur
People did not say that the printing press would make society worse. You’re full of shit.
orincoro t1_j5kasve wrote
Reply to comment by JackIsBackWithCrack in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur
The printing press was used to print Hitler’s book too. If you don’t think this is going to have similar concequences, you’re very much mistaken. New mass media is adopted by radical political movements faster than anybody else.
When the printing press was invented, most people couldn’t read. This isn’t even close to the same kind of situation.
orincoro t1_j5kacvx wrote
Reply to comment by Introsium in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur
Exactly. Ensue a typical commons tragedy instantly. We’ll just end up with the next wave of right wing radicalizing content, only it will be chat bots, that will do anything to “engage” people with no regard for anything else.
orincoro t1_j5ka4dv wrote
Reply to comment by False_Grit in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur
- Not letting AI spread misinformation when being used in an application where the law specifically protects people from this use.
- Not allowing AI to be used to defeat security, privacy, minisformation, spam, harassment, or other criminal behaviors (and this is a very big one).
- Not allowing AI to access, share, reproduce, or otherwise use restricted or copy protected material it is exposed to or trained on.
- Not allowing a chat application to violate or cause to be violated laws concerning privacy. There are 200+ countries in the world with 200 legal systems to contend with. And they all have an agenda.
orincoro t1_j5k9l1z wrote
Reply to comment by Substantial-Orange96 in Google to relax AI safety rules to compete with OpenAI by Surur
“Facebook commenter SLAMS Google Ethics Team, Lashes out over Culture War.”
For example.
orincoro t1_j5k93e4 wrote
Ah yes, no better strategy than to… :checks notes: remove safety precautions and ethical rules to enable more aggressive competition?
orincoro t1_j3vpzea wrote
Reply to comment by ErstwhileAdranos in Controversial Proposal to Reduce Global Warming Could Threaten Ozone Regeneration by Rear-gunner
Of course. Obviously we’d be doing it to lower temperatures and prevent climate collapse. I mean to say that it would not be harmful to life.
It would have no meaningful impact on the ability of any biosphere on Earth to function as it currently does. We get about 50% more sunlight than we need. The majority of that sunlight (and I mean the enormously overwhelming majority) is converted into ambient heat.
We know this because when the sun dims by several percent over the course of years, nothing happens on Earth, except global temperatures very slightly drop.
orincoro t1_j3sxw5n wrote
Reply to comment by Sleepdprived in Controversial Proposal to Reduce Global Warming Could Threaten Ozone Regeneration by Rear-gunner
The earth receives far more sunlight than plants or animals need to survive and thrive. Reducing solar insolation by a few percent will have zero impact on life.
orincoro t1_j3sucsu wrote
Reply to comment by holydamien in Apple is reportedly making an all-in-one cellular, Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth chip. by SUPRVLLAN
Yeah. The important thing is that they are getting the lion’s share of the margin on it. If you’re paying $300 for the chip as a part of the product, they’re keeping $250 instead of 150.
orincoro t1_j3nonel wrote
Reply to How keys works. by -birdbirdbird-
Or so the Germans would have us believe.
orincoro t1_jeg8l9x wrote
Reply to comment by ViolinistFamiliar187 in Fahrenheit 451 Co-opted? by ViolinistFamiliar187
The book is quite timeless, but like 1984, it came out of the post-war paranoia of the 50s. Unlike 1984, it definitely takes the view that mass media is the chosen instrument of imperialism, making legacy media an enemy of “progress.”