r0b0d0c t1_itip74r wrote on October 23, 2022 at 10:49 PM

Reply to comment by glium in [OC] Chances to attend a "Grande Ecole (Top university) in France. If you want to attend "ENA", the best university in France, you have 330x chances if your father graduated from there. by pacmanpill

If that's the case, then these statistics are meaningless. They're comparing apples and pizza.

r0b0d0c t1_itin4c7 wrote on October 23, 2022 at 10:34 PM

Reply to comment by RazzmatazzBrave9928 in [OC] Chances to attend a "Grande Ecole (Top university) in France. If you want to attend "ENA", the best university in France, you have 330x chances if your father graduated from there. by pacmanpill

I have no idea what social reproduction means.

r0b0d0c t1_itetslt wrote on October 23, 2022 at 2:39 AM

Reply to [OC] Chances to attend a "Grande Ecole (Top university) in France. If you want to attend "ENA", the best university in France, you have 330x chances if your father graduated from there. by pacmanpill

Sorry, but these numbers can't be right. They could only work if it was almost impossible for non-legacy students to get into these institutions.

r0b0d0c t1_itesi9m wrote on October 23, 2022 at 2:28 AM

Reply to comment by satellite51 in [OC] Chances to attend a "Grande Ecole (Top university) in France. If you want to attend "ENA", the best university in France, you have 330x chances if your father graduated from there. by pacmanpill

I always thought that Sorbonne was the French equivalent of Oxford. But then I see that the acceptance rate is 100%. So what gives?

r0b0d0c t1_itep6di wrote on October 23, 2022 at 2:00 AM

Reply to comment by panchoop in [OC] Chances to attend a "Grande Ecole (Top university) in France. If you want to attend "ENA", the best university in France, you have 330x chances if your father graduated from there. by pacmanpill

I'd agree if the difference was 2X or even 10X, but 330X is outrageous. Plugging some numbers in shows how ridiculous these figures are. The 330X figure doesn't even make sense for a baseline acceptance rate greater than 1/330 = 0.3%, in which case the acceptance rate if your father attended would be 100%. More reasonable numbers would be 0.15% vs 50% or 0.075% vs 25%. Bottom line: either these numbers are wrong by a metric fuck-ton, or someone at ENA is pulling some strings. My guess is the former.

Edit: My Google machine tells me that the admission rate to ENA is 8%, so the 330X figure would be possible if at least 99.98% of admissions were legacy admissions.