rustafarionm

rustafarionm t1_iz1i3py wrote

When I moved to pittsburgh in 2009. It was still in pretty rough shape here in this region of the rust belt.

The city, decided to basically give those houses away for very cheap, they were basically, given away for their tax value. usually with no running water or utilities.

Both things happened as a result. Poor people were somewhat gentrified and priced out. And also, as those neighborhoods got nicer, alot more social programs followed suite.

The reason? there are several high profile hospitals in those areas that bring in alot of wealth from medical profession.

So it was a bit of both in this instance. However, the city ha been pretty aware of its growth and have been trying to pass zoning laws to keep low income people from being displaced.

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rustafarionm t1_iz0dz2i wrote

90% of Ft Myers Beach was destroyed from this last hurricane

My cousins place, all that was left was a foundation.

Their swiming pool had a couch in it.

And there was 2 washers and 2 dryer units sitting on the foundation where their house once was.

Neither of the wash/dryer units was theirs.

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rustafarionm t1_iz0dkbz wrote

Take with a grain of salt.

its 'per capita' allegedly.... they need to average it out to make it more comparable between states. also the title is nonsense.

And OP never indicated much, as to how he built the map.

For example, PA is listed as low amounts of permits...but I think thats because there are simply enough older homes available, that new construction is less desirable.

IF thats what OP did, Im assuming he calculated; Permits/residents

But its unclear from the map title alone. And Im not going to comb through their links, because the onus should be on them to clarify their methodology.

If they were mapping percentages of permits/rejections That would be a bit more fitting of the title. But ultimately more information is needed.

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rustafarionm t1_iz0bm78 wrote

I live in the rust belt.

In Pennsylvania, for example, the reason why there is such a small amount of actually two-fold (I suspect the circumstances between California, and say the west coast are quite different).

Here is what Ive observed in PA, regarding housing (in the rustbelt, and is the 5th most populated state)

Most of the high demand areas already have older housing from the post war suburban craze. The high demand areas are limited on space and have a plethora of housing available.

This is due to:

1.Consistent decreasing of total population, over the past several decades, prior to the pandemic

  1. Lower cost of living, even in counties with a high populous center.

I know that in the pittburgh area, for example, there isnt much room to build new housing.

This is better, in the long run, as building an older home decreases your carbon footprint, over a new purchase.

However, do to many factors, Allegheny co just saw its first population + in many decades.

Edit. I wanted to also add in, that we have alot of empty lots in urban areas as well. However, our more rural areas have also seen an uptick in WFH employees, who are leaving their former HCOL area.

Often times, new permits are so different by county, that it might be more cost effective do build farther away from your commute, depending on the lax nature of the permit requirements.

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