Thanks for the different perspective!

It's a hellofa town, the schoolyard's up and the shopping malls down!

I'm fairly apolitical these days but here in Seattle the city council full of children blocked some fund/project to remove graffiti tags because its 'cultural art' or some shit. You just can't win.

I wanted to live in a "Springfield" and just looking at the maps on google and the houses on Zillow / Trulia it seemed okay. But ya'll have convinced me otherwise lol. Ozark does seem really nice though, I watched a video on the Bridal Cave and it was awesome.

Being from WI, part of the draw to WI was the lack of cold / snow. I'm willing to tolerate some... but MN just seems way too cold.

Yeah sounds pretty much like where I'm at now.

Damn dude, it sounds the exact same as where I am now, almost worse. At least here I've never had a package stolen, and I don't have a fear of getting randomly murdered. I never walk after 9pm, but that rarely seems to matter these days. It's terrible and it's everywhere all the time.

I looked up Ozark, it seems nice.

Congrats! Excited for you! Its awesome just being able to walk into a place and buy all kinds of stuff. Has its downside though, because its all or mostly cash they are prime for robbery, the place I normally go to got robbed and the kid took like seven bullets trying to take the gun from the guy, he lived though thankfully.

Thanks! I looked at Springfield, OR, but I'm not sure it will be any different than here. I'll check out Charlottesville!

Do you have a favorite place you've lived?

That's really what's driving me, I want a big yard for my dog to run around and play in and a safe neighborhood to take walks in!

That's been the strategy here too - bulldoze the camps and send them off into the night. They tried building an addon to a homeless shelter south of downtown, the people protested and it got nixed. Like I said I've been here for over 11 years, it's always existed. But recently I've been assaulted, my dog has been hurt, and it's just time for a change.

Ugh, I feel like you could copy / paste those descriptors across many of the large and even medium-sized cities across the country. I really don't want to live in like a po-dunk town but if they're safe and affordable I guess that's what I'll have to look into it.

Thanks for the info

It's just me & my dog, I work from home so I could really go anywhere, I was looking at all the various Springfield's across the states and this one looked nice.

Thanks for the replies. I live just about as far away from downtown as you can while still staying in the city of Seattle but even so it's reached a tipping point. They are in the park, they are outside every store. They barricade the bus stops to do drugs at. My dog has gotten glass in his foot from the trash they leave everywhere. They burned a cart full of shit nearby and it melted the powerline above, AND it was right next to a big gas/electrical box thing. I've come outside to find them using the power outlet on the side of my house.

I'm not looking for Mayberry, but I want to be able to walk my dog without have to dodge broken glass and needles.

I didn't know that. 420 is the only drug I'm interested in and it looks like you just legalized it.

Trulia and Zillow say differently