DISCLAIMER: I'm not a native speaker, so please excuse any language errors.
I'm currently 22 and I'd really appreciate your insights on my thoughts and some feedback.
Alright, straight to the point, going back to the basic questions:
Why does the world exist?
What are we supposed to do with our existence?
• First of all these to me seem more like answered scientific questions.
The reason I'm saying this, if for example ( in very simplistic terms and ideas for the sake of comprehension) scientists reach the end of the universe and see codes, bites etc and manage this way to prove that we live in eg a video game. Then, automatically the real meaning of our lives would be that we were created by some more advanced/powerful species that somehow preexisted to basically entertain them. Thus, someone could argue that if we were able to do anything at all at that point then we should probably try to break out of that artificial world we are trapped in and try to get to the real world where the aliens are. That means that we would've a straight answer to both a) and b).
• I believe in science.
I just think it is the closest legitimate thing we humans have created to be able to understand the world.The reason why I trust it is because it seems to work, I see its applications in my daily life eg cars, aeroplanes,surgeries etc. I do lack knowledge though and I do somehow doubt the scientific method, in the sense of: what if it is outdated? What if it doesn't encompass all case studies? What if there is a better way? But I feel like, right now if you want to learn the truth, science is the closest you'll get to it.
• I don't believe in God.
(Unless it's proven by science.) To me God, is the easy answer. “Why does it rain? Because God is Sad” etc. It just seems like an uneducated guess. I tend to believe that one of the many reasons humans preserved God for so long iss because it's a way to cope with their insignificance when looking at the enormity of the cosmos.
• We are born, we live, we die.
It is this living that is bothering me.
How am I supposed to live my life?
Thing is in my mind there are two worlds:
A) The real world, meaning the earth, solar system universe and the scientific approach that all of this is slowly switching off, so everything we are doing is coming to an end, disappearing never to be seen again.
B) The human world, which is a subset of the real world which seems like a microworld where we are sucked into a total different reality with different rules and where people seem to live ignoring/forgetting what is really happening and only seem to regain consciousness during certain periods of their lives called "Life crises" only to be sucked again into the human reality.
I have no Philosophy background and my knowledge in general is very limited I don't know the ideas or the branches that exists and you might think I'm misusing the idea of Philosophy here trying to practically apply it to my life. But if, humans and the world will one day disappear then in my mind the following holds true:
That nothing is meaningful. That life should be seen as an experience. The same way you are landing on a new country for some days knowing you'll most likely never return and try to fit into your trip as much as good experiences as possible, to discover and experience stuff just for the sake of it just because you had the opportunity and why not have fun? So, it's like being the main character in an adventure. Like a nomad. I understand that this approach is sort of selfish. This makes me think it's important for me to travel meaning to explore that world, to see what it is like, to meet other people, to fall in love and to create. In my mind it's like a colourful celebration dancing around the fireplace. Having children, to add this is in, doesn't make much sense in my mind either. It's just like, I came, I experienced, I leave.
Although this seems to be my reasoning if everything is going to die anyways, it is only in theory, because I live in the human world.
In the human world, I forget about the real world.
In the human world I have to care about money, status about laws, social psychology, ethics etc and so many other things. I saw two cats fighting the other day as I was walking past them and I was like you are so stupid. Like, you are fighting right now in front of me doing everything you are supposed to do in the cat world when in reality from my point of view it's meaningless cause if I want to I can kill you both. It's just like, in retrospect everything we do in the human world when looking from above is mostly meaningless.
I don't know if I have puzzled you. It's just like, knowing what I know, I'm certain I don't know how to live my life. There isn't a handbook for life and I reject the ones given from various religions, although I'm definitely sure I'm affected even subconsciously by a lot of their teachings since the majority of the world is lead by them eg Christianity and I grew up in that society.
Like, being nice to your peers and helping the poor makes sense if you think that this is the law send by God and the earth is a testing period that will determine if you'll go to heaven or earth etc. But since, I don't believe in that I'm now called to reinvent my own values which I'll live my life by and it's very difficult, it is giving me headaches.
verdinatoc t1_iwrxvir wrote
Reply to /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | November 14, 2022 by BernardJOrtcutt
DISCLAIMER: I'm not a native speaker, so please excuse any language errors.
I'm currently 22 and I'd really appreciate your insights on my thoughts and some feedback.
Alright, straight to the point, going back to the basic questions:
• First of all these to me seem more like answered scientific questions. The reason I'm saying this, if for example ( in very simplistic terms and ideas for the sake of comprehension) scientists reach the end of the universe and see codes, bites etc and manage this way to prove that we live in eg a video game. Then, automatically the real meaning of our lives would be that we were created by some more advanced/powerful species that somehow preexisted to basically entertain them. Thus, someone could argue that if we were able to do anything at all at that point then we should probably try to break out of that artificial world we are trapped in and try to get to the real world where the aliens are. That means that we would've a straight answer to both a) and b).
• I believe in science. I just think it is the closest legitimate thing we humans have created to be able to understand the world.The reason why I trust it is because it seems to work, I see its applications in my daily life eg cars, aeroplanes,surgeries etc. I do lack knowledge though and I do somehow doubt the scientific method, in the sense of: what if it is outdated? What if it doesn't encompass all case studies? What if there is a better way? But I feel like, right now if you want to learn the truth, science is the closest you'll get to it.
• I don't believe in God. (Unless it's proven by science.) To me God, is the easy answer. “Why does it rain? Because God is Sad” etc. It just seems like an uneducated guess. I tend to believe that one of the many reasons humans preserved God for so long iss because it's a way to cope with their insignificance when looking at the enormity of the cosmos.
• We are born, we live, we die. It is this living that is bothering me. How am I supposed to live my life?
Thing is in my mind there are two worlds: A) The real world, meaning the earth, solar system universe and the scientific approach that all of this is slowly switching off, so everything we are doing is coming to an end, disappearing never to be seen again.
B) The human world, which is a subset of the real world which seems like a microworld where we are sucked into a total different reality with different rules and where people seem to live ignoring/forgetting what is really happening and only seem to regain consciousness during certain periods of their lives called "Life crises" only to be sucked again into the human reality.
I have no Philosophy background and my knowledge in general is very limited I don't know the ideas or the branches that exists and you might think I'm misusing the idea of Philosophy here trying to practically apply it to my life. But if, humans and the world will one day disappear then in my mind the following holds true:
That nothing is meaningful. That life should be seen as an experience. The same way you are landing on a new country for some days knowing you'll most likely never return and try to fit into your trip as much as good experiences as possible, to discover and experience stuff just for the sake of it just because you had the opportunity and why not have fun? So, it's like being the main character in an adventure. Like a nomad. I understand that this approach is sort of selfish. This makes me think it's important for me to travel meaning to explore that world, to see what it is like, to meet other people, to fall in love and to create. In my mind it's like a colourful celebration dancing around the fireplace. Having children, to add this is in, doesn't make much sense in my mind either. It's just like, I came, I experienced, I leave. Although this seems to be my reasoning if everything is going to die anyways, it is only in theory, because I live in the human world.
In the human world, I forget about the real world. In the human world I have to care about money, status about laws, social psychology, ethics etc and so many other things. I saw two cats fighting the other day as I was walking past them and I was like you are so stupid. Like, you are fighting right now in front of me doing everything you are supposed to do in the cat world when in reality from my point of view it's meaningless cause if I want to I can kill you both. It's just like, in retrospect everything we do in the human world when looking from above is mostly meaningless.
I don't know if I have puzzled you. It's just like, knowing what I know, I'm certain I don't know how to live my life. There isn't a handbook for life and I reject the ones given from various religions, although I'm definitely sure I'm affected even subconsciously by a lot of their teachings since the majority of the world is lead by them eg Christianity and I grew up in that society.
Like, being nice to your peers and helping the poor makes sense if you think that this is the law send by God and the earth is a testing period that will determine if you'll go to heaven or earth etc. But since, I don't believe in that I'm now called to reinvent my own values which I'll live my life by and it's very difficult, it is giving me headaches.
Any comments truly appreciated.