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vitalvisionary t1_jdisos7 wrote

Hey! We have Mark Twain's old house! And some nice art museums! Ummm... is Peabody still under renovation? Mystic is a fairly decent aquarium! Then... hmmmm... it's very pretty in the fall!

Oh yeah and we have a lot of new breweries! Hope you like IPAs...

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vitalvisionary t1_jdi9u48 wrote

Hey how about explaining how this isn't a problematic statement instead of making a silly metaphor about it? Seems like you're trying to distract from explaining yourself beyond a shoulder shrug emoji. If you think bringing up Nazis and WWII isn't relevant in a discussion about antisemitic hate crimes on the rise than I think you're just obtuse.

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vitalvisionary t1_jdi6cxt wrote

Again?

>We can’t make people stop being racist assholes. There is always going to be hate in the world.

This is mollifying racism. You may be right, you may not be. Declaring this true undermines the efforts of being trying to solve the problem. Even if futile, it is a noble sisyphean task.

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vitalvisionary t1_jdi3j07 wrote

Oh boy, here we go. Using buzzwords you don't even know the meaning of like "virtue signaling" (utterly meaningless on a site where you're anonymous).

You know what that tells me about you? It says you think everyone is just like you but are lying. I'm sorry if you feel insecure so you need to project your crap on everyone else to make yourself feel better. Maybe stop and think about why people might disagree with you instead of calling them liars?

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vitalvisionary t1_jdi1aic wrote

How was I advocating for any of that? There are plenty of nonviolent ways to deal with racism. I even made suggestions here in this post. If those are the only options you think there are to racism than you obviously haven't done much research. Maybe start by reading some of MLK's work. He had a lot of good suggestions.

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vitalvisionary t1_jdhz1gf wrote

That's defeatist, lazy, and no consolation to victims. I suppose you think we shouldn't do more about rape because there's always going to be rape in the world? Why have cops of people are going to commit crimes anyway? Society will never be perfect but we should always strive for a more perfect union. Kinda the point of the whole thing IMO.

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vitalvisionary t1_jdhyc5i wrote

>This person is clearly acknowledging that there is always some amount of perpetual racism, bigotry etc.

Ok but that wasn't all he said. Taken as a whole it's excusing it as just a byproduct of society. That's an awfully convenient thing for people who don't care about or support racism. Like hearing rape statistics and saying "Oh well, boys will be boys!"

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vitalvisionary t1_jdhwpym wrote

I grew up with a lot of racism light. Unfortunately calling them out doesn't always work on its own merits. You get a lot of "I was just kidding!" or "No one can joke around anymore!" I have found the most effective way to counter this is to attack their maturity. I tell them that poopy jokes are funny to little kids, then they grow up and make sexist/homophobic jokes during puberty, and racist jokes in hight school. It all about being edgy to higher and higher degrees. More mature kids don't even need to make these jokes, it's just the ones with with lingering insecurity, needing to take someone else down a peg to feel better about themselves.

Just a joke? Grow up and learn that there are consequences for not being a responsible adult.

This does not work for the hardcore adherents though. Those are the ones that don't cite humor as a retort but start reciting "facts" about certain races or gender identity, etc. I would recommend The Alt-right Playbook on YouTube and street epistemology for the fully brainwashed. The best you can do is learn their tactics and how to dismantle them.

Edit: Seems I triggered a lot of people with this comment. Did I strike a nerve?

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vitalvisionary t1_jdhu58k wrote

He's mollifying hate crimes as "discrimination." Discrimination is not letting certain people in your business, not seeking out people to victimize. There's a difference. Not knowing that difference is ignorance. Plus he's trying to downplay it as a "diversity" problem and not that big a deal per capita. These are common tactics of people like fucker carlson who then slip in more extreme rhetoric over time.

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vitalvisionary t1_jdhmfil wrote

I think it's more a feature of being raised rich and privileged than the universities fault. Hell, my college was known for having spoiled brats as students but pushed diversity requirements for GE and every major separately. Still has racist fascists as graduates. Then again, most of the money the school gets is from donations to the petroleum engineering and business school and I don't know what their requirements are

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