waterbed87

waterbed87 t1_iu7on48 wrote

It does improve that fast. In 2010 the Tesla Roadster got 240 miles of range and it's performance was 0-60 in 4s. In 20202 the Tesla Model S gets 400 miles of range and 0-60 in 2s Double or Nearly doubled in both metrics. I'm confident by 2035 there will be electric trucks with like 500+ miles of range and like 200-250 towing which will be comparable to ICE and if fast charging takes 20 minutes today it will probably take like 10 by then.

Regardless this is still pointless, I really don't want to argue about hypotheticals. Time will tell, if the tech doesn't catch up ICE will stick around to fill in the gaps until it does. If something better than Electric comes along we'll see a shift to that instead eventually. The world isn't going to end because ICE gets completely or mostly phased out.

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waterbed87 t1_iu7ndxe wrote

Look unless you can jump to 2035 and tell me how wrong I was this is a pretty pointless discussion at this point. I've agreed the tech isn't there and our primary difference is I believe it will catch up and you assume it won't. Time will tell nothing left to be said. If ICE is still required for certain working conditions it's not like the EU or other governments are going to go 'tough shit guess we all starve', exceptions will be made.

But as I said, I think we'll be in awe of what 2035 electric vehicles are like compared to 2022 ones and it's well known that Lithium Ion isn't the solution forever which is why huge investments are being made in alternatives.

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waterbed87 t1_iu7ll04 wrote

I'd love to see higher MPG but unless someone forces them to do it automakers have no incentive to do it. I believe Obama had gotten some passed to force them to invest in more efficient vehicles but Trump cancelled them so here we are, now everyone is all-in on electric what do you do.

I think electric vehicles will become completely different animals by time ICE is getting phased out and if it's not up to certain jobs I'm sure exceptions will be made so farmers can still do their jobs until the technology catches up. I personally believe by 2035 we'll both be in awe at how far the tech has come but time will tell.

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waterbed87 t1_iu7jvya wrote

The tech isn't there, today. With some countries banning fossil fuels in cars the technology will continue to improve drastically over the coming years and charging stations will become as common as gas stations. I agree that Lithium Ion isn't great but we're working on replacements for those too.

2035 is a long ways away, have some faith in the technology catching up. All you're really doing is being pessimistic presuming the tech has gotten as good as it's going to get, I promise you that's not the case.

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waterbed87 t1_isbsl8i wrote

Are you outraged Samsung doesn't ship chargers anymore either?

"Samsung believes the removal of earphones and charger plugs from our in-box device packaging can help address the growing e-waste problem and unnecessary duplication of these items."

https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/why-does-samsung-not-include-a-charger-in-the-box/

It's an environmentally friendly decision that impacts a minority of buyers in both camps. Most people around Reddit seem pretty liberal about telling people to buy electric cars to save the environment but we draw the line on reducing e-waste?

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