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zeshtorm t1_ja4z6qg wrote
Reply to comment by rickyp_123 in Two Israelis murdered in Palestinian terror shooting in West Bank by yoyo456
I mean there are plenty of buildings going up there legally. Palestinians also tend to build purposely without permits so Israel will destroy the building and then get international condemnation.
zeshtorm t1_ja4yxwq wrote
Reply to comment by Ratjar142 in Two Israelis murdered in Palestinian terror shooting in West Bank by yoyo456
Yeah pointing out that building being demolished are being demolished because they’re built without a permit = mental gymnastics.
zeshtorm t1_ja4y9kb wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Two Israelis murdered in Palestinian terror shooting in West Bank by yoyo456
Try that in your home country and see how it goes.
zeshtorm t1_ja4or6v wrote
Reply to comment by Strict-Device7005 in Two Israelis murdered in Palestinian terror shooting in West Bank by yoyo456
Demolition on buildings built without a permit or homes of convicted terrorists. Certainly no settlements being built on those areas, and even your extremely biased news source (AJ is generally a good news source but ridiculously, almost comically, anti-Israel) isn’t claiming otherwise.
zeshtorm t1_ja4mr7z wrote
Reply to comment by Strict-Device7005 in Two Israelis murdered in Palestinian terror shooting in West Bank by yoyo456
Please show me the last time any Palestinian homes were bulldozed for Israeli settlements
zeshtorm t1_ja4fc0d wrote
Reply to comment by Strict-Device7005 in Two Israelis murdered in Palestinian terror shooting in West Bank by yoyo456
Why do you say that? Why would their house have been bulldozed?
zeshtorm t1_j9lq7u1 wrote
Reply to comment by thoughtsofmadness in Israeli West Bank raid kills 10 Palestinians and hurts more than 100 others. by CrackHeadRodeo
I don't, it's sad for sure.
BUT: 1) There is no knowing how many of those 100 were actually injured, and how many got a tiny nick that the Palestinian media counted as an injury to inflate the count.
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There is no knowing how many of those wounded were also militants or involved in the firefight, and
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It's hard to place the blame squarely on Israel as people here are doing. They have been going in to arrest members of terror groups that they have good intelligence are planning attacks on Israel. Just letting them be is not an option if they have good intelligence. I also can't much blame the militants for not wanting to go quietly. However, they are the ones that made the decision to start a firefight in middle of their own neighborhoods. It's a given that the IDF will return fire, and it's also a given that an extensive shootout in middle of your neighborhood will result in innocent people getting hurt.
zeshtorm t1_j9ljja4 wrote
Reply to comment by ishitfrommymouth in Israeli West Bank raid kills 10 Palestinians and hurts more than 100 others. by CrackHeadRodeo
7 out of 10. You can see videos of Palestinians blind shooting at Israelis and other Palestinians watching the scene. Sad and scary. To be clear, they (IDF) came in to arrest members of terror organization and came under heavy fire.
zeshtorm t1_j9lftyl wrote
Reply to Israeli West Bank raid kills 10 Palestinians and hurts more than 100 others. by CrackHeadRodeo
Wow, not one comment mentioning that 7 of the Palestinians have been claimed by recognized terrorist organizations as being one of their members?
zeshtorm t1_j60o6hl wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in PA announces halt to security coordination with Israel; US cautions against move by MijTinmol
My friend you have good intentions but your lack of knowledge of the history of the conflict is showing. Israel made offers giving the Palestinians basically every inch of land they claim is theirs, with land swaps for the handful of land masses they did not want to give. The Palestinians said no. The American president brokering the deal was stunned.
You keep saying they should negotiate, but with whom?? Hamas rules Gaza. Their founding charter swears that peace with Israel shall never happen, and the only acceptable solution to the conflict is victory through Jihad. Obviously not a negotiation partner.
The PA rules in the West Bank. Their grip is tenuous at best, they've canceled the last 4 or 5 elections because they are afraid they will be beaten by Hamas, and they are the same organization that refused the peace deals and pays salaries to the families of suicide bombers, a policy they refuse to budge on. A few years back, Netanyahu stood in the UN and publicly invited Abbas (leader of the PA) to negotiate with no preconditions. Abbas refused.
You can't negotiate with someone that won't negotiate back. So all your talk of "negotiate, negotiate" is meaningless. It assumes that a majority of Palestinians are okay living peacefully beside Israel, which is probably not true, and it assumes that there is a party on the Palestinian side with whom Israel can negotiate. There simply isn't.
zeshtorm t1_j60k12o wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in PA announces halt to security coordination with Israel; US cautions against move by MijTinmol
How exactly should Israel tackle the difficult task of negotiating a peace settlement with people that don’t want to negotiate a peace settlement with them? Israel has made multiple peace offerings and has agreed to a Palestinian state on like 5 different occasions. Only the Palestinians have said no to a Palestinian state, because it wasn’t on the terms they wanted.
All of these arrests Israel is making are against organizations who believe firmly that they will one day conquer all of Israel and make it all Palestine. These organizations recruit members and get local support because many many other Palestinians believe the same. It’s really sad for the many Palestinians that DON’T live in that fantasy and want to make peace, but their voices are always drowned out by calls for violence.
At one point they need to accept accountability for the fact that they are the party consistently turning down peace offerings or even offers to negotiate.
zeshtorm t1_j60f7e5 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in PA announces halt to security coordination with Israel; US cautions against move by MijTinmol
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Israel is trying to defuse the time bombs before they go off by arresting terror cells before they can complete attacks they are planning.
zeshtorm t1_j16jrmv wrote
Originally they were saying they might not release it because they were worried about incitement at the funeral. Now they’re saying they’re holding it as a bargaining chip for remains of soldiers held by Hamas. I don’t love the move. It’s a very low level Hamas is comfortable stopping to, holding remains, and I don’t love Israel stooping to the same level.
They are the more moral actor, and they need to act like it.
zeshtorm t1_iyeucjx wrote
Just to be clear: the tunnels between Gaza and Egypt were the ones they once used to smuggle some fast food through, leading tons of people to go “oh the tunnels are just used to smuggle food”.
The ones they built into Israel, like this one, are built for the sole purpose of infiltrating Israel and carrying out attacks.
The fact that it’s under a school is yet another example of Hamas using humans, even children, as shields.
If there were an operation and Israel went into this school and destroyed the tunnel, headlines would be screaming for weeks about “Israel invades elementary school”. Sick people, Hamas, and they care as little about the lives of their own people as they do about the lives of Israelis. When will Palestinians finally rise up against them?
zeshtorm t1_iwhd2kj wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Three Israelis killed by Palestinian in West Bank knife and car attack by WexfordHo
Your response to Israelis getting killed is to come up with a strawman reason to attack the IDF? Telling.
zeshtorm t1_ja5pkvq wrote
Reply to comment by SaintSilversin in Two Israelis murdered in Palestinian terror shooting in West Bank by yoyo456
I never said that. I said they weren’t demolished for settlements, which was the claim made by the guy I responded to. And i was 100% correct.